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roni4g63 Feb 10, 2016 09:16 PM

Honest opinions on FIC 1450's please!!!
 
Hey gang, I got a set of fic 1450's brand new, Heard and read alot of good/okay things about them before getting them, after i recieved them, i happened to have come across alot of negatives lol. Can you guys that use these please give me an honest opinion about these injectors? Thank you so much.

My mods are

stock evo 8 bottom end 100k miles
evo 9 turbo
ported oem turbo mani
22psi turbosmart wg
MAP o2 dump
full 3" turboback
wally 255
GSC S2's
supertech exhaust valves
supertech intake valves
supertech dual valvesprings
kiggly HLA
egr delete (head and manifold)
3mm thermal intake gasket.
fic1450's

still have the car apart, therefore have not used injectors yet. thank you for reading. your opinion will help alot.

e_kobz Feb 10, 2016 10:11 PM

Unless you're planning on going with a much larger turbo they're overkill for your current setup. You're planning on running E85 I hope

roni4g63 Feb 10, 2016 10:16 PM

yes
 
e85, and i was going to use my fp red for this build, got rid of it, figured If im on the stock bottom end and would have to give ip torque, id go with a 9 turbo and get the most out of it with all the bolt ons. Bigger is okay because i guess it would just mean lower IDC's. but what im wondering is how is drivability, idle cold starts on these.

enjoiskater7788 Feb 11, 2016 03:18 AM


Originally Posted by roni4g63 (Post 11574847)
e85, and i was going to use my fp red for this build, got rid of it, figured If im on the stock bottom end and would have to give ip torque, id go with a 9 turbo and get the most out of it with all the bolt ons. Bigger is okay because i guess it would just mean lower IDC's. but what im wondering is how is drivability, idle cold starts on these.

Drivability is ok on e85 but was pretty bad on 93. Idle and cold starts was fine, right on 14.7 with the idle set to 1100 rpms. Tom at tscomptuned tuned my car. So if your plaining on running mainly e85 they are a decent injector. Hope this helps

lostsoulsevo Feb 11, 2016 05:15 AM

I have 1450s and will never again go with a peak n hold low impedance injector. They require constant voltage which this injector is crap running e85. It's a old style injector. I'm now going with 2000id

Abacus Feb 11, 2016 01:14 PM

ID1300 /1700. Great driveability, fuel trims, cold start etc. Its a true Bosch injector made for Injector dynamics . The ID1700 is the same type of injector. I've been over 500whp on E85 for over a year and couldn't be happier.

roni4g63 Feb 11, 2016 11:38 PM

wow..
 
thank you for all of your responses and opinions, I honestly dont like to cut corners, and ordered these without much research really, Will most likely get rid of them since they are still brand nee in bubble wrap, and go with ID 1300's most likely.

Fuel Injector Clinic Feb 12, 2016 02:14 PM

The large low impedance injectors we came out with really opened the market up in a great way in the past when there weren't any other good options available. They performed much better and tuned much easier than comparable injectors of the size, and there are still quite a number of really happy customers using them today.

With that said, they're still old technology compared to modern Bosch injectors like our 1100cc high impedance injector which is going to be more linear at short pulse widths and be easier to tune as a result.
To make a good injector recommendation we'd really need to know what your power goals are, but our 1100cc injectors are really popular, and will support roughly 450 whp on E85 at 43.5psi and up over 500 whp on E85 at 58 psi base fuel pressure. If you need to go bigger, we also have a 1650cc injector available that you can also expect great results from (look up English Racing's video review on them including idle quality).

If you search reviews for these I'm confident you'll have all kinds of warm fuzzies afterwards. Like all of our injectors, they come with complete flow and latency data to make tuning a breeze.

They're really a great value with how good they are, so want to make sure you're looking at a fair comparison here across the newer technology high impedance injectors available.

roni4g63 Feb 12, 2016 10:20 PM

great info
 

Originally Posted by Fuel Injector Clinic (Post 11575652)
The large low impedance injectors we came out with really opened the market up in a great way in the past when there weren't any other good options available. They performed much better and tuned much easier than comparable injectors of the size, and there are still quite a number of really happy customers using them today.

With that said, they're still old technology compared to modern Bosch injectors like our 1100cc high impedance injector which is going to be more linear at short pulse widths and be easier to tune as a result.
To make a good injector recommendation we'd really need to know what your power goals are, but our 1100cc injectors are really popular, and will support roughly 450 whp on E85 at 43.5psi and up over 500 whp on E85 at 58 psi base fuel pressure. If you need to go bigger, we also have a 1650cc injector available that you can also expect great results from (look up English Racing's video review on them including idle quality).

If you search reviews for these I'm confident you'll have all kinds of warm fuzzies afterwards. Like all of our injectors, they come with complete flow and latency data to make tuning a breeze.

They're really a great value with how good they are, so want to make sure you're looking at a fair comparison here across the newer technology high impedance injectors available.

Thank you for the helpful info Bryan, increasing base pressure is done via an aftermarket/larger FPR correct?

LetsGetThisDone Feb 13, 2016 12:32 AM

Yes, and a gnarly fuel pump. Pumps flow less when fuel pressure is higher. When you raise pressure, you need to make sure the pump flows enough at that higher pressure.

Best to get an injector that works for your goals at 43.5psi base. The FIC 1650 hi-Z are great in my car.


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