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Can a hallman Manual Boost Controller be bad for your car?????

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Old May 14, 2005 | 06:12 AM
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I think you need an exhaust before the MBC, on most of the MBCs it says that an exhaust is required first. I put an MBC on my friends car as his firs mod and he couldn't boost below like 23, i dont think the stock exhaust can handle it.
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Old May 14, 2005 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by burningmoney97
just from what i read , search works great

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ck+boost+gauge


its like comparing the stock intake to an aftermarket one.
the aftermarket intake makes the stock one look and perform like 'junk'
Uh, I did do a search, and there was no definitive answer. A few people had problems not reading correctly, but just as many had no problems at all. My gauge reads exactly where it should be, and I have no reason to expect it to be "junk." It is absolutely absurd to compare intakes to a gauge. One is an entire system with many parts and one is just a mechanical gauge. The intake systems works great, but it can be ENHANCED for performance. There is no need to ENHANCE a gauge...it just measures things. I don't see people replacing their oil temp, coolant temp, fuel, and speedo gauges. As for the stock intake system...I still use mine with only a replacement filter, and that was good enough for 12.8@106.3 with just an S-AFC.

I don't plan on replacing my factory gauge just because you think stock parts are automatically junk.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
It is absolutely absurd to compare intakes to a gauge. .
apples and oranges...still the same fruit

so do think the stock gauge in your evo is as good as an aftermarket one?

i guess with your thinking the stock clutch is perfect 2 - lol

i may be taking it to the extreme saying its junk. i am sure its ok just like everthing else on the car. but when you compare it to an aftermarket part , the stock is just not as good.

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I don't plan on replacing my factory gauge just because you think stock parts are automatically junk.
i never said you should. and if you are fine with stock so be it. but the location of the stock boost gauge is

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Old May 15, 2005 | 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Uh, I did do a search, and there was no definitive answer. A few people had problems not reading correctly, but just as many had no problems at all. .
so 50/50 on any problems with the stock gauges. i would want aftermarket gauges that have a little better success rate.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 03:43 AM
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i put in the MBC-Hallman yesterday and i have intake but no exhaust. it makes the boost more linear. however i do run about 94 octane by blending either toluene or 100 octane w/ 92. just like anything else, overdoing it can be bad for you. i got it mainly to replace the 1.5 psi i lost to the new fmic. i boost to about the original stock level., i will install my safcII next week and probably get an exhaust one day, but shipping the exhaust to Hawaii is expensive! get the MBC and keep it around the stock levels and enjoy the sweeter boost that is more linear. worth the money imo. also when you install it, take the time to sand the fan shroud edges that cut me so many times when i installed the BOV.
and yes, def will void warranty so take it out before you take your car into mitsu!
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Old May 15, 2005 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by burningmoney97
so 50/50 on any problems with the stock gauges. i would want aftermarket gauges that have a little better success rate.
People who don't have any problem with their gauge don't take the time to post about it, so that's another invalid point.

And what does the clutch have to do with this? Now, you're comparing a wear item in the drivetrain with a MECHANICAL GAUGE? Again, why do you not replace ALL of your gauges, if you think they're so bad? What makes an aftermarket gauge better than the Mitsu one? I haven't seen anything wrong with it and have no reason to believe there's anything wrong with it. If you have some proof or evidence that the stock gauge is somehow inferior, then please share it.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by burningmoney97

so do think the stock gauge in your evo is as good as an aftermarket one?
??
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Old May 15, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by burningmoney97
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Why wouldn't it be? It's just a gauge...it measures pressure...what's so hard about that? I don't go changing out my oil temp, water temp, voltage, speedometer, and rpm gauges just because there are aftermarket ones made. What evidence is there that the Mitsu gauge is faulty or inferior?
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Old May 15, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Why wouldn't it be? It's just a gauge...it measures pressure...what's so hard about that? I don't go changing out my oil temp, water temp, voltage, speedometer, and rpm gauges just because there are aftermarket ones made. What evidence is there that the Mitsu gauge is faulty or inferior?
so is that a yes or no?
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Old May 15, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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Only problem is that the OEM gauge is small to read and only goes up to 1.5 Bar. If you're boosting higher than 1.5 bar, you'll be clueless using the OEM gauge.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by skiracer
Only problem is that the OEM gauge is small to read and only goes up to 1.5 Bar. .
damn, only 21.7557psi!
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Old May 15, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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My aftermarket boost gauge sucks, it's off by like ~2 pounds... It also cost a wooping 30 bucks and works just fine I didn't get the stock gauges
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Old May 15, 2005 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Why wouldn't it be? It's just a gauge...it measures pressure...what's so hard about that? I don't go changing out my oil temp, water temp, voltage, speedometer, and rpm gauges just because there are aftermarket ones made. What evidence is there that the Mitsu gauge is faulty or inferior?
Originally Posted by burningmoney97

so do think the stock gauge in your evo is as good as an aftermarket one?

Originally Posted by burningmoney97
so is that a yes or no?
all i am asking if you think
YES - it is as good as aftermarket gauges
NO - my stock is as good as aftermarket gauges
simple question.... but can you answer it Warrtalon?
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Old May 15, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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I'd say the OEM gauge is very accurate since i also have a Zeitronix Wideband with a 3.5 Bar absolute MAP sensor (same boost sensor that the AEM-EMS uses) which is one of the most accurate ways to measure boost. The OEM gauge is very close to what my Zeitronix boost sensor says. Like i said, the only problem with the OEM guage is that its small to read and only goes up to 1.5 bar.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by burningmoney97
all i am asking if you think
YES - it is as good as aftermarket gauges
NO - my stock is as good as aftermarket gauges
simple question.... but can you answer it Warrtalon?
If this is a simple question, then I must be really dumb...

"YES" and "NO" look the same to me...
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