Originally Posted by machron1

Those cars are two totally different animals. Depending on what you value in a car, one or the other will be the completely wrong decision for most people.

I test drove a C5 Z06 because there was a deal on one and my Evo was still new enough to get almost all my money back. Here was my experience:
As soon as I got in, I knew I was in a gigantic Chevy. Compared to the Evo, it felt like I was sitting in a low-slung armchair. Plush leather and electronic do-dads abound. Time to back up; I can't see anything. Time to pull out of the driveway; I'm halfway in the road before I can see around the bush because the hood is 5 miles long. I scraped the front at stock ride-height going out of the dealership's driveway which struck me as odd considering it wasn't that steep of a slope. The salesperson that accompanied me just shrugged like they all do that, so off we go toward the freeway. I quickly noted the number of times I had to turn the steering wheel was more than I normally would in the Evo. Stop & go traffic is a breeze with such a torquey engine, but shifting was kind of a chore. The shifter is placed far up toward the dash, required a lot of effort, and had rather long throws. The clutch felt somewhat numb; I could only tell when it was engaging by the movement of the car. But I never feared stalling it like I would in my car. The thing has torque from like 100rpm.

OK, so onto the onramp and the freeway, time to see what she's made of. It's a medium constant-radius uphill turn, and the roar from the engine is deeper than any 4 banger's wet dream. I am pulling significant g forces with no noticeable body roll, and the salesman is squirming wondering if he's going to see his wife & kids ever again. That's his problem though I didn't ask him to come along . The main problem was, I knew the thing could perform, and it was doing so, it's just that it wasn't telling me anything through the controls. OK, straight part onto the freeway, full throttle & man that thing flies. Hit the brakes and it tracked straight back down to sane speeds. The salesperson actually asks politely that I not kill him. Fair enough, I did all I wanted to do anyway.

After I putted back & parked it (with a couple stoplight take-offs in between, which I screwerd up trying to row the shifter) and the poor guy recovered, he quickly started his salesman mode again. He asked how much I would take it for. I replied quite honestly that I wouldn't even do it if it was a straight trade. Really not even if he threw in a few thousand on top of it. I think the Evo is just more fun to drive for me personally. The steering, the communication, the sheer LUNACY of driving a 4 door 4 banger with all that capability. It's just a different car. It's focused on the execution of one thing and does it exceptionally well, to the detriment of most other functions of a car. For most people, the Vette is an obvious choice. For me, it's the Evo but I definitely wouldn't recommend most people buy one. It's a niche car, and it just so happens it's the niche I fit in myself.

Originally Posted by Jasil

Your starting to speak drivel too 3000ways. A stock EVO outhandling a C6 is big load of crap....on autox maybe on a very short roadcourse where you don't leave second for most of course and hit 3rd on the straights, maybe. On a large course like VIR or Buttonwillow, Hell freaking No.

No, I didn't say it took 15-20K to beat a stock C6, I said they have 2 shops that have taken C6's and run low 11's@125-127mph for under 2K. For a EVO to beat that consistantly/reliablily would take 15-20K of course this includes installation too.

Wrong forum to talk about nitrous.......I never said I was a juice junkie either did I? I'm just telling you what's available. I did say for me I would pick the EVO too, but again you have rosy colored mind altering glasses on that are making you see the EVO seem more than what it is.

Originally Posted by Jasil

A EVO will not touch a C6 vette in any category except autocross and packing more people. It's not even worth debating stock vs stock modded is a totally different story.

Think about this from a financial standpoint. The C6 will outhandle, outbrake, better topspeed, better acceleration, and for most of North America alot more prestige. While the import people will say cool a EVO most people will think "Youngster" "Mitsubishi...what?"...etc etc.

MTI and Vette Doctors have already produce 11.20@127mph timeslips from a air filter, exhaust, and 125 shot that's less than 2k in the car. You can easily take it off or pay someone too and still have good resale value.

If you try to mod a EVO to outbrake, outhandle, you can give up on the better top speed without TRE's drag gears, out accel a the above modded C6, but for the 15-20K you will spend you might get half of that in resale. Not to mention your spending hard cold cash or worse using credit to mod the car and paying interest.

All logical thoughts say C6 all the way, but it wouldn't be any fun if we all liked the same thing now would it. I would go with the EVO personall just because I'm a Ford guy not a Chevy. If you say 06' Cobra or 06' EVO.....06' cobra ALL THE WAY!!

Originally Posted by Jasil

Lastly 3000ways before you start jumping around talking equality go look at some track times for various road courses for C6's and EVO's. What about OnelapofAmerica since you like to talk theory instead of real world track results or drag numbers. AMS EVO has everything and didn't even come close to Heads/Cam, full exhaust, lightened Z06 of Danny Popp go read the results on Onelap and go read the cars mods on Z06vette.com.

Originally Posted by Stangar

I know better than to post this on any Corvette forum (very biased) but you are mostly a "no BS" group and appreciate all cars. Which would you buy if you really didn't need the back seats and the cost between the two was not a problem?

Originally Posted by 3000ways

I guarrantee you dude, the AMS EVO had less money spent than most cars in that competition, why don't you do some f*cken research. Me jumping around, dude we are talking about the C6 and you bring up a Z06, look at the results and you'll see the AMS EVO ahead of a C6 Vette , interesting. Also your telling me just heads/cam, full exhaust, and light weight was all that was need for this car keep up with a Hennesey Viper, dude, your really looking stupid. Plus you must have not not noticed that the car was sponsored by ATI for the One lap of America event, who just happend to be one of the leading makers of Superchargers (Prochargers) for Corvettes. Still as I stated earlier were talking about a C6 Vette, not Z06. Also why don't you find some various track times comparing the two, since you brought up. But I guess that is what you do, a lot of talk and no proof, and when you do provide proof, it's quickly dismantled due to your lack of knowledge and research, try again buddy.