EPI Design LTD's Evolution 8 Body Kits!!
Re: EPI Design LTD's Evolution 8 Body Kits!!
Originally posted by R0ME02984
...We here at EPI Designs LTD, have been designing a body kit and are in final processes to production of a hot new body kit for the Lancer Evolution 8...
...We here at EPI Designs LTD, have been designing a body kit and are in final processes to production of a hot new body kit for the Lancer Evolution 8...
Trial Tuning Spirit Try-R/Try Force Aero bodykits.
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Thank you DriftRunSir for adding input. Although the design may resemble this "Trial" kit it is not the same. I guarantee you. We have used concepts of this look for the front bumper and revamped many aspects of it to make it look better and fit the evo in a totally different way. I never said that I just created the kit from scratch and didn't take any concepts from any other kits. Additionally our sideskirts are completely different and redesigned with a inake/flare near the rear wheel well. We are creating a totally new mold for the kit and manufacturing this kit from within our company. For that reason that makes this body kit that we have created our kit. I can see that you have your opinion to say on our kit, but please keep it to yourself, many others here are trying to enjoy the kit for what it is and not criticizing.
v. de·signed, de·sign·ing, de·signs
v. tr.
1. To plan out
2. To have as a goal or purpose; intend
Thank you DriftRunSir for adding input. Although the design may resemble this "Trial" kit it is not the same. I guarantee you. We have used concepts of this look for the front bumper and revamped many aspects of it to make it look better and fit the evo in a totally different way. I never said that I just created the kit from scratch and didn't take any concepts from any other kits. Additionally our sideskirts are completely different and redesigned with a inake/flare near the rear wheel well. We are creating a totally new mold for the kit and manufacturing this kit from within our company. For that reason that makes this body kit that we have created our kit. I can see that you have your opinion to say on our kit, but please keep it to yourself, many others here are trying to enjoy the kit for what it is and not criticizing.
haha that was the same defense that Wing West and other companies had when they got lawsuits from Veilside. lol ok the definition of design has loops to it...thats exactly what the companies here used to get the lawsuits dropped...Copyright laws here consider a 10% difference from the original design to be considered a different bodykit. so if i were to make edges on a bumper sharper instead of rounder it makes it a brand new kit...lol ok i just designed it although it completely resembles a freakin veilside bodykit. The definition to design is so broad when it comes to bodykits and products. All you guys are doing is modifying an existing kit.
a. To conceive or fashion in the mind; invent; create.
anyway you asked for feedback...meaning you asked for a critique good or bad...you cant just ask for good comments...your denying yourself of the truth...but as you requested i'll keep my comments to myself but keep my critique in mind and hopefully it encourages you guys to completely design a kit.
another thing i did say that the TRIAL bumper does look nice on the e8/7's and i give you guys props for doing it first..i just think its a bit of a rip off....Vision Imports did the same but for Mirages and Evo4-6's looks good too.
a. To conceive or fashion in the mind; invent; create.
anyway you asked for feedback...meaning you asked for a critique good or bad...you cant just ask for good comments...your denying yourself of the truth...but as you requested i'll keep my comments to myself but keep my critique in mind and hopefully it encourages you guys to completely design a kit.
another thing i did say that the TRIAL bumper does look nice on the e8/7's and i give you guys props for doing it first..i just think its a bit of a rip off....Vision Imports did the same but for Mirages and Evo4-6's looks good too.
Last edited by DriftRunSir; Mar 26, 2003 at 01:55 AM.
ha thats why i dont like Bill Gates...the idiot doesn't even know how to turn on his own computer! ha! he saw the product, took it, invested in it and got rich off it. while the true programmers get squat! doesn't that suck? Microsoft...windows...internet explorer...all rip offs...but what can we do? haha ok Off Topic dont get me started...i have alot of things to say about that shmuck and everything else thats wrong with this country and the rest of this world.
im not discouraging anyone from buying the kit...hell i encourage someone to buy it kus i think that kit looks dope on the Evo series cars [e4-e8] im just saying its a rip kus he asked for a critique of the kit.
Originally posted by DriftRunSir
ha thats why i dont like Bill Gates...the idiot doesn't even know how to turn on his own computer! ha! he saw the product, took it, invested in it and got rich off it. while the true programmers get squat! doesn't that suck? Microsoft...windows...internet explorer...all rip offs...but what can we do? haha ok Off Topic dont get me started...i have alot of things to say about that shmuck and everything else thats wrong with this country and the rest of this world.
ha thats why i dont like Bill Gates...the idiot doesn't even know how to turn on his own computer! ha! he saw the product, took it, invested in it and got rich off it. while the true programmers get squat! doesn't that suck? Microsoft...windows...internet explorer...all rip offs...but what can we do? haha ok Off Topic dont get me started...i have alot of things to say about that shmuck and everything else thats wrong with this country and the rest of this world.
About rip-offs, with your reasoning then you can say everything on earth is a rip off. Japanese cars are just better american or german cars then. They get what we do in america and do it better, faster, and more reliably. That's what technology and progression is all about. Making things better. If there was no progression we'd still be in the middle of the industrial revolution.
OK, i take back what i said about bill gates. Since i have partial knowledge to bill gates i'll just drop everything from there.
ok, about Rip-Off's although i understand what your saying. These Corporations actually do create technology of their own and they do improve upon each others technology...but atleast when a huge corporation takes another corporations technology and improves it they have to buy the rights to use the technology for a base. Highly skilled, highly trained professionals that build upon each others technology...take for instance Hyundai they bought the rights to use Mitsu's chassis designs and motor designs to build their new line up of cars...thats why if you were to look at a Tiburon you'd notice the huge similarities it has with mitsus motors and exterior designs. In order for them to use it they had to pay...same with BMW they had to pay mitsu to improve on Mitsu's GDI motors.
but what exactly are you doing to improve a bodykit by fitting it onto a different car? He did mention that they are changing some of the styling of the kit. OK, reasonable, i dont mind it but he still didn't design the kit...you have to understand from the point of view im coming from...what if you designed a bodykit out of your head built from scratch and some jack *** buys one of your kits and copies it and fits them on all other cars and takes the credit you deserve? This is exactly what Wings West did to Veilside and so many other companies...APR,JG Auto,CARisma. I worked as an intern for Wings West and their designers aren't even qualified Transportational Designers the only company i know of here in the US that has actual educated and qualified designers would be Kaminari(in-house) and Shark Racing(over seas) if you look at all the bodykit manufacturers from Hong Kong[which have incredible industrial design schools] all of them have actual trans. designers working for them...as for the rest they are just Autobody nuts who chopped up kits and slapped them on other kits and cars...i respected Veilside alot since he was one of the first Japanese manufacturers that had actual design skills from school and made it to the top...what does he get out of his kits here in the US? he gets raped by Wings West releasing the "Shogun kits" and V-Type's and he gets no credit or money from it at all...i just think it sucks kus these designers take days,weeks and even months to design 1 concept bodykit laying down the basic design, multiple thumbnail designs, measurements, practicality, rendering, ink and coloring all that takes time...then you gotta actually go out there and start working on the real product...then you got some guy with money on the other side of your door who buys the kit [you, thinking its going to be put on his car or for one of his customers] instead he goes copies it at his shop and sells them to the public and makes money from it...and the do0de has no idea what kind of time it would take a guy to design and build such things...
our profession is being ruined by people like that...we go to school, spend time and money to make this world a much better looking world and setting the trends.[look around you a product/transportational/industrial designer pretty much designed everything around you...your chairs,your pens,your mouse, your keyboard] There isn't enough car companies out there to higher all the designers out there...thats why alot of us open our own design studios...
bah...nevermind i dont want to bother with this anymore...go visit a design school there's tons around this country the one im studying at is Pasadena Art Center [#1 industrial design school of the country] take a tour and talk to some of the students you'll see how hard it is to be in those classes...to make it out of those schools you have to be the best and only the best...which in turn means working hard and being a step ahead. The people working on the kit @ EPI are skilled and talented people im sure of it but their taking the easy way and they are only going to go a short distance with it because they wont have a clue how to push designs to its boundaries. Look at Veilside no one ever thought a design like those would ever come out plus his kits are aerodynamically proven! [only on cars he intended them to be put on] anyway im done thats my rant. 02cents.
ok, about Rip-Off's although i understand what your saying. These Corporations actually do create technology of their own and they do improve upon each others technology...but atleast when a huge corporation takes another corporations technology and improves it they have to buy the rights to use the technology for a base. Highly skilled, highly trained professionals that build upon each others technology...take for instance Hyundai they bought the rights to use Mitsu's chassis designs and motor designs to build their new line up of cars...thats why if you were to look at a Tiburon you'd notice the huge similarities it has with mitsus motors and exterior designs. In order for them to use it they had to pay...same with BMW they had to pay mitsu to improve on Mitsu's GDI motors.
but what exactly are you doing to improve a bodykit by fitting it onto a different car? He did mention that they are changing some of the styling of the kit. OK, reasonable, i dont mind it but he still didn't design the kit...you have to understand from the point of view im coming from...what if you designed a bodykit out of your head built from scratch and some jack *** buys one of your kits and copies it and fits them on all other cars and takes the credit you deserve? This is exactly what Wings West did to Veilside and so many other companies...APR,JG Auto,CARisma. I worked as an intern for Wings West and their designers aren't even qualified Transportational Designers the only company i know of here in the US that has actual educated and qualified designers would be Kaminari(in-house) and Shark Racing(over seas) if you look at all the bodykit manufacturers from Hong Kong[which have incredible industrial design schools] all of them have actual trans. designers working for them...as for the rest they are just Autobody nuts who chopped up kits and slapped them on other kits and cars...i respected Veilside alot since he was one of the first Japanese manufacturers that had actual design skills from school and made it to the top...what does he get out of his kits here in the US? he gets raped by Wings West releasing the "Shogun kits" and V-Type's and he gets no credit or money from it at all...i just think it sucks kus these designers take days,weeks and even months to design 1 concept bodykit laying down the basic design, multiple thumbnail designs, measurements, practicality, rendering, ink and coloring all that takes time...then you gotta actually go out there and start working on the real product...then you got some guy with money on the other side of your door who buys the kit [you, thinking its going to be put on his car or for one of his customers] instead he goes copies it at his shop and sells them to the public and makes money from it...and the do0de has no idea what kind of time it would take a guy to design and build such things...
our profession is being ruined by people like that...we go to school, spend time and money to make this world a much better looking world and setting the trends.[look around you a product/transportational/industrial designer pretty much designed everything around you...your chairs,your pens,your mouse, your keyboard] There isn't enough car companies out there to higher all the designers out there...thats why alot of us open our own design studios...
bah...nevermind i dont want to bother with this anymore...go visit a design school there's tons around this country the one im studying at is Pasadena Art Center [#1 industrial design school of the country] take a tour and talk to some of the students you'll see how hard it is to be in those classes...to make it out of those schools you have to be the best and only the best...which in turn means working hard and being a step ahead. The people working on the kit @ EPI are skilled and talented people im sure of it but their taking the easy way and they are only going to go a short distance with it because they wont have a clue how to push designs to its boundaries. Look at Veilside no one ever thought a design like those would ever come out plus his kits are aerodynamically proven! [only on cars he intended them to be put on] anyway im done thats my rant. 02cents.



