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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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I don't think it was ever a joke to anyone but yourself, but if you say so....

This thing looks like a bunch of snake oil to me. It's actually heavier than stock, costs a crapload, makes claims that are completely unverifiable, and is tough as hell to install. This is going to be a hard sell, but good luck to you.
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CBRE
I run this combo on my car, ATI w/ tilton Carbon/Carbon, I would say it's the best combo of parts out there.
yeah I would do it but right now i don't feel like spending the 2-3 hours I still have an alky kit i need to reconnect and an accusump pending to get installed. Maybe after I finish those projects i'll get around to replacing the pulley.
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 144mph
I don't think it was ever a joke to anyone but yourself, but if you say so....

This thing looks like a bunch of snake oil to me. It's actually heavier than stock, costs a crapload, makes claims that are completely unverifiable, and is tough as hell to install. This is going to be a hard sell, but good luck to you.
Actually they have been proven to do what they claim in other applications. I don't see why this one would be any different.
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 144mph
I don't think it was ever a joke to anyone but yourself, but if you say so....

This thing looks like a bunch of snake oil to me. It's actually heavier than stock, costs a crapload, makes claims that are completely unverifiable, and is tough as hell to install. This is going to be a hard sell, but good luck to you.
its not snakeoil... The pulley dampens the vibration that goes thru the crankshaft. This is not about weight savings its about saving the bearings in your motor.
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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Joey is right on...

The following is a link to Dinan BMW. It provides some of the best information on what a harmonic dampener does and why not to use a "power pulley".

http://www.dinancars.com/whitepapersFile.asp?ID=5

The stock dampener is fine for a stock engine. When modifications are made to an engine, the harmonics change and the stock dampener may not be adequate.


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its not snakeoil... The pulley dampens the vibration that goes thru the crankshaft. This is not about weight savings its about saving the bearings in your motor.
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CBRE
I run this combo on my car, ATI w/ tilton Carbon/Carbon, I would say it's the best combo of parts out there.
Thanks for your input Curt...
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 144mph
I don't think it was ever a joke to anyone but yourself, but if you say so....

This thing looks like a bunch of snake oil to me. It's actually heavier than stock, costs a crapload, makes claims that are completely unverifiable, and is tough as hell to install. This is going to be a hard sell, but good luck to you.
It is NOT a sale. There is not a for profit gain. IT IS A TEST.

It is not designed as a lightweight pulley. If you knew what a that pulley was for, you would understand its purpose and why this is important. If you don't have a Tilton clutch, there is nothing you can add to this thread, so don't post.
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 03EVO583
Joey is right on...

The following is a link to Dinan BMW. It provides some of the best information on what a harmonic dampener does and why not to use a "power pulley".

http://www.dinancars.com/whitepapersFile.asp?ID=5

The stock dampener is fine for a stock engine. When modifications are made to an engine, the harmonics change and the stock dampener may not be adequate.
Excellent link. Thanks for your input.

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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
Excellent link. Thanks for your input.

great Advanced Engine Technology part
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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Harmonic balancers are a very useful part of the equation, and should be used for all HP motors. In other HP applications they are considered mandatory. Different technology approaches exist -- Fluiddampener uses a silicone dampening system, ATI uses replaceable elastomer rubber dampener material, and Rattler uses an entirely different method, which looks very interesting from an engineering standpoint.
Unfortunately, there is only one choice right now for the EVO. ATI is in production, as TTP offers. Fluiddampener has a dampener in production for the DSM 4g63T, but is alittle ways away from production for the EVO 4g63. AFAIK, Rattler is not considering serving this application at all.

Rather than lose HP, most studies show that a properly dampened crank actually increases HP, and sometimes substantially, in addition, of course, to keeping your engine bearings from being destroyed, which some folks think is a very good thing all by itself.
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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Thanks to TTP-Engineering for offering their time and resources for this test. When I get my Tilton, it will be from you guys. Thanks

~fred
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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how much more does this one weigh that the stock one
ttp can you send me a price i bought my tilton from you
so you got to pull the timing belt pully and replace it with this one
not quite understanding the install
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by joeymia
Doesn't look like you can run balance shafts with this either...
Pretty sure it leaves the balance shaft untouched as it rides on the crank and the sprocket/pulley combo is installed on top of it.

Sorry for not researching the sprocket replacement part of this.

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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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Mine runs like butter so smooth.
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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