this is simply just an idea, no flaming please, ok so the 05+ evo has a limiter at 5k with the clutch depressed, my theory is that you could shift without lifting the gas, because wouldnt the limiter pull power while you shift quickly? if im right, limiters cut spark, and therefore cut reving until the motor reaches the limiter rpm, so would this type of shifting be faster or just burn up the clutch? just an idea from an evo dreamer

 

i believe the limiter only works when the car is stationary AND the clutch pedal is depressed.

 

yeah....i'm pretty sure the stock launch control only works when the car isn't moving...its not a true two step

 

also, all evos have the limiter i think, it's just that in the 03-04 the limiter is set to an rpm that is above redline so it's never activated. using ecuflash you can set it to your launch rpm and then it works.

 

Even if it was possible it'd be DAMN hard to time the shift with the rev limiter.

 

this is comming from a guy who wants a 06 evo 11

 

HAHA that was funny! Evoboy88 you should fix that! But it wasn't a bad question at all, your right it was simply an idea and i respect you for sharing it

 

you could shift without the clutch no matter what rpm if you just jammed it into the next gear lol, but that probally wouldnt be to good for the trans.

 

lol

 

If the limiter works while moving (not sure if it does), then this would probably work good. If it doesnt, you would be bouncing off the regular rev limiter which would be breaking stuff. Anyone want to try and let me know.

 

Your idea is cool and is being used but with ignition on most high performance sport exotics like Ferrari, Porsche, BMW and Lambos with syncromesh transmissions.
Shifting improvements are directly related to the type of clutch provided, or being used and the condition of the syncronizers in the trans.

1.Sprung hub clutch disc, which is what factory equipment is.
a clutch disc which incorperates a marcel spring which soaks up driveline abuse before it's transfered to the tranny and other driveline components. This is why it's common to mis shift in your evo. The disc has springs that act like shock absorbers.

2. A solid hub is a solid clutch plate rivited directly to the hub, no give in this type of clutch, brutal on transfer cases if not driven correctly. Also enables super quick power shifts!....but is very bad on trannys and tranfers cases as well as axels. So unless you have lots of money or dont mind the car being tore down often for repair, these types of clutches are not for you.

 

oops, didnt even see my typo on the side, ****, lol well thnx for the feedback, just an idea, i would be curious if anyone wanted to try, just once

 

FTL (full throttle launch) and FTS (full throttle shift) is not the same thing. the stock evo ecu only support FTL but most stand alone ecu support both FTL and FTS.

 

I know the Exede uses this same strategy for it's NLS (no lift shift).