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Old Aug 23, 2003 | 03:09 AM
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Some questions after 3 days of ownership

After a few days and some 100 miles of ownership... I noticed
that 5th gear is a bit difficult to engage.... The distances of
pushing shifter from neutral to left (to get to 1st or 2nd) and
pushing shifter from neutral to right (to get to 5th) are quite
different.... It also require more effort to push the shifter to the
right??? Both sides are the same on my BMW.
Is this "normal"????
Or the tranny just needs some time to break in??

Tried searching.... all I find is "5th gear grind" problems...

Paint code... after washing my car for the first time after delivery..
I found a little scratch on the driver door (about an inch long)...
Where do I find the paint code on the car??

edit: Found it!!
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ght=paint+code

Brakes... They do not seem to bite as good as I expect from a
4 pistons Brembos... Manual says to take it easy for the first
200 miles.... I hope that the performance will improve dramatically



THANK YOU!!

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Old Aug 23, 2003 | 05:07 AM
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Hi,

Regarding the brakes, I found that they did in fact get better. I was a little disappointed since I expected my eyeballs to hit the windshield.

One thing I've decided is that the brakes don't have tons of initial "bite" like german cars seem to. For example, my Dad's C4s and my old Audi seemed to grab more initially. However, the EVO brakes have a lot of feedback, and the harder you push on the pedal, the harder the car stops.

Try it once you've broken them in and you'll see that you can get a certain amount of braking force, but if you really stomp harder on the brakes, the car will stop a proportional amount harder. It takes getting used to, like I wasn't getting on the brakes hard enough if I needed to brake suddenly, but you get used to it and learn to appreciate it.

Is there not a lot of brake assist or am I just making stuff up?

Thoughts?

FB
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Old Aug 23, 2003 | 05:08 AM
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The worries you have are warranted...

The tranny...yes, it took a bit for me to get used to the 4th to 5th shift...you'll get used to it.

Brakes...again...gotta let those *****'s break in...just be easy on 'em. They didn't 'bite' the way I expected either, but every day, they get better...I've only got 550miles on mine and they're good to go!

Enjoy!
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Old Aug 23, 2003 | 05:27 AM
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DUDE.....dont worry man ure driving an evo!!!...the brakes feel soft not like they bite right away because they are sport brakes let them break in dude!!....give it like 200 miles and they will stop on a dime trust me. About 5th gear it should not grind talk to the dealer about that. Ive heard probs with 2nd gear grinding because of shifting to fast. Thats about it. And u seemed to find the paint code so good luck with that dude. Trust me evo brakes are good....60-0 in 106 feet is good enough for me.
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Old Aug 23, 2003 | 05:29 AM
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Originally posted by berkel
Hi,

One thing I've decided is that the brakes don't have tons of initial "bite" like german cars seem to. For example, my Dad's C4s and my old Audi seemed to grab more initially. However, the EVO brakes have a lot of feedback, and the harder you push on the pedal, the harder the car stops.

Try it once you've broken them in and you'll see that you can get a certain amount of braking force, but if you really stomp harder on the brakes, the car will stop a proportional amount harder. It takes getting used to, like I wasn't getting on the brakes hard enough if I needed to brake suddenly, but you get used to it and learn to appreciate it.

Is there not a lot of brake assist or am I just making stuff up?

FB
I agree in part. Alternating between a 996 and the Evo the brakes are very much the same - very progressive. Initial bite is similar but the Porsche pads are not the same as the Evo's. For one thing the Evo pads generate much more dust than the Porsche's.

The thing with both of these cars is that they require much more (stomp) force than say a WRX to generate similar stopping force. I find that this is similar to a purpose built race car such as the Panoz GT-RA.
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Old Aug 23, 2003 | 09:08 AM
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Make sure you bed the pads properly. Check the FQ300 FAQ for directions.
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Old Aug 23, 2003 | 11:04 AM
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Look real close at the pattern of wear on the front discs. You may notice an uneven pattern from inside to outside, which would indicate the pads are not completely flat and straight when they clamp down. This will eventually disappear as the high spots on the pads wear down. It took damn near 1,000 miles before my brakes achieved maximum performance.
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Old Aug 23, 2003 | 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by berkel
Hi,

Regarding the brakes, I found that they did in fact get better. I was a little disappointed since I expected my eyeballs to hit the windshield.

One thing I've decided is that the brakes don't have tons of initial "bite" like german cars seem to. For example, my Dad's C4s and my old Audi seemed to grab more initially. However, the EVO brakes have a lot of feedback, and the harder you push on the pedal, the harder the car stops.

Try it once you've broken them in and you'll see that you can get a certain amount of braking force, but if you really stomp harder on the brakes, the car will stop a proportional amount harder. It takes getting used to, like I wasn't getting on the brakes hard enough if I needed to brake suddenly, but you get used to it and learn to appreciate it.

Is there not a lot of brake assist or am I just making stuff up?

Thoughts?

FB
Man, I agree 100% regarding the brakes. Having owned a BMW M3/4 and an MCoupe, I was expecting that same level of immediacy in braking and was somewhat dissappointed when I tested the EVO's brakes. Much better than the crappy stock Audi S4 brakes I had difficulties with.

Although I am still not convinced they are as good as the M brakes, I have over time found that they are extremely strong and as mentioned just require a different pedal effort and getting used to the progressive modulation technique.


Jeff
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Old Aug 23, 2003 | 04:50 PM
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FWIW, the stock brake pads are pretty miserable during hard driving. By hard driving, I mean hard, repeated braking. I can usually get them to smoke visibly after one or two 80-0 brakes. Not something that most do on a daily driving basis. But the few crazies out there will want something more aggressive. We're running Ferrodo high-perf street pads in our EVOs and find them to fit the bill quite nicely. Barely noisier than stock with good cold stopping capabilities. And far more resistant to brake fade.

My 2c,
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Old Aug 23, 2003 | 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by shiv@vishnu
FWIW, the stock brake pads are pretty miserable during hard driving. We're running Ferrodo high-perf street pads in our EVOs and find them to fit the bill quite nicely. Barely noisier than stock with good cold stopping capabilities. And far more resistant to brake fade.

My 2c,
Shiv

Shiv are you running the ds2500 or ds3000 compound?
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Old Aug 23, 2003 | 08:55 PM
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As far as the 4 pistons will go... brakes are only going to be as good as the pads you are running. The pistons just help to evenly distribute the load over the pads.
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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 03:27 AM
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Another quick question guys!!..

Does your EVO's engine ticks/taps at idle??
That's usually a sign of low oil level for my M3... just wondering
if that's normal for EVOs..
(That reminds me to check the oil level)
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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 05:33 AM
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Originally posted by JT-KGY
Another quick question guys!!..

Does your EVO's engine ticks/taps at idle??
That's usually a sign of low oil level for my M3... just wondering
if that's normal for EVOs..
(That reminds me to check the oil level)
Welcome to the 4G63! It makes all kinds of noises at idle. My Talon used to flicker the oil light at idle with synthetic oil when it was extremely hot, however the oil pressure was fine.
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