They could drop boost VERY easily without changing the turbo itself. I wouldn't be all that concerned about it. For that matter, I HIGHLY doubt anyone knows anything worth noting at this point..especially about something specific as the boost level.

Hell, let them lower the boost and restrict the exhaust. I plan on ripping out that OEM piece of crap anyhow, and running a full Magnex system. As for the boost, I plan on an entirely new ECU, and possibly Electronic Boost Controller(if I dont like how the new ECU controls boost).

So both of these issues will be entirely irrelevant, and just encourage me to do my modifications sooner.

The point is, Mitsu will NOT severely handicap this car, as it is NOT in their best interest to do so. It would make no sense to give us a SEVERE tune-down in this beloved car. Subaru would demolish them for it, and they would only hurt themself. Less worrying will make you happier. The car will be great, you will love it. That is all.

Mordeth

 

BTW, the GSR has a 68mm compressor wheel diameter...the GTA has a 65mm. That is why I'm concerned when he said "lower boost" because it sounds to similar to the GTA. Keep in mind the GTA was designed to be more "friendly" to the average driver and have a slightly different powerband that is better for everday driving.
I'm fine with less boost as long as it's the bigger turbo so I can turn the boost up to where it should be

 

Well, as I said, first off all I highly doubt that we would get a completely tuned down version. Perhaps we will get a few options, one with the slightly smaller turbo, and one with the larger one. GTA and GSR? RS and GSR? GTA and RS? Who knows. Mitsu probably doesn't even know yet.

Moreover, I would like to know what credentials this person has to make these alleged statements of fact and lead people to believe that what he states is the truth. I really need to see cold, hard proof..or information DIRECTLY FROM MITSU before I draw any conclusions. I have seen too many "facts" that turned out to be PURE speculation, rumors and sometimes utter LIES to get all worked up over any of this. I already went down that road when I first started reading this board, and soon learned to believe very little of what anyone "predicts".

I wouldn't worry all that much about it man. Mitsu won't screw us, and if they do then all they end up doing is screwing themselves in return.

Mordeth

 

what's up guys.

What I heard was first-hand stuff.... from people who were testing the LHD evo that day. That's why I posted pics of the Evo (and the Lancer Wagon they had) to show you guys. However I was asked by them to take them off (the location could get them in trouble). But some people saw it and I guess that's good enough to justify myself

from what they said, they changed 3 things that has easy solutions to recover:

1) moved FMIC --> future FMIC kit (WRX has them. I'm sure someone will make one for EVO7)

2) dropped boost --> boost controller. If you care about performance you'll get one of them anyways.

3) restrictive exhaust --> EXHAUST (duh. Probably one of the first definite mods to a turbo car)

Smaller turbo..... they didn't mention that. The dropped boost and the exhaust is to comply with emissions. moved FMIC, (I guess) for the 5mph bumper.

From what they said, the equipment will be very close to GSR version, with Recaros, Brembos, and all the good stuff (AYC, ACD, intercooler spray maybe.) No words on automatics. If they have auto, it PROBABLY won't be INVECS-ii. (semi-autos hurt the emissions alittle).

If you don't believe me, that's fine. If EVO7 comes out and they're as I stated, great. If they're even better, nice If you want COLD HARD proof of everything, then the RUMORS forum is not for you. I'm not trying to mislead people (why would I want to do that? I want the EVO to be good like everyone does). I'm just taking steps that are taking everyone closer to the actual specs, that's all.

 

if the fmic is moved, is it still the same size, or will it be smaller? also, how much would an aftermarket fmic (hks or greddy) cost with installation, and would it look good or kind of choppy since they would have to cut out the bumper?

sorry if these questions are a bit stupid, im just curious.

thanks
cary

 

no one knows for sure, but I think the FMIC will be smaller when moved (too big to be moved AND remain the same size.)

FMIC kit for WRX to move the IC to the front costs about 900~1k, so i would say it'll cost around that price range or maybe even cheaper? (because less piping work to move from SIDE to FRONT rather than TOP to FRONT.)

 

Did the LHD Evos you took pictures of still have the front mount intercooler (pushed right up against the bumper)?



....and send those pics my way

 

the LHD EVO7 that I took pics of has EVERYTHING....... FMIC, brembos, ACD button, intercooler spray button, etc. etc. Basically a GSR on LHD. But US-spec will be different, for sure (the 3 things I mentioned above.)

 

To me, not having a FMIC is not a big deal, as long as performance is not compromised.

Do you know how much I would have to spend to get a less restrictive Exhaust and a boost controller?

thanks,

 

any exhaust out there will be less restrictive than the stock exhaust. For example, APEXi N1 mufflers will give the EVO7 20+hp at the wheels! Possibly more for USspec EVO7.

Boost controllers....too many to list. AVC-R, Profec B, SBC-iD, etc. etc.

 

What did your "source" say about the nice looking silver Lancer wagon? Will it be here before or after the Evo?

 

I have not see the new car but I can tell you for SURE that the intercooler will be smaller if moved from its current location.

Side note...I have heard from two Mitsubishi sources now that the US car will be called an EVO VIII. interesting??? Just something to think about.

Personally, I do not want to drop $35,000 buying the car and then have hack it up installing a FMIC, piping, bigger injectors, ECU mods. Trust me, this car is going to NEED the warenty coverage (Every 4g63 mitsubishi depends on it!)

Matt

 

I didn't ask about it.

But the front looks alittle different from the Lancer sedans.

 

Isn't that just the Cedia wagon?