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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 08:36 PM
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I have an 03 Evo I bought off of someone on here and long story short, I got screwed. I've had countless things fixed, the entire engine rewired, injectors put in, oil leaks fixed, power steering leak fixed, etc. Now I was putting different spark plugs in thinking that would fix my misfire when the car was cold. The car stopped running then and threw codes saying the crank position sensor and o2 sensor were bad. I replaced the crank sensor and now the car still does not run. It has to be something internally. The battery also just died..

I was trying to sell the car but at this point I can't afford to get it fixed nor do I want to accept 6000 for a car I owe over 13 on. I am thinking of storing the car for a period of time and buying a new engine for it and keeping it. I have no clue what the problem is, I can't even afford to have it properly diagnosed right now. This car has drained my funds. What would you guys do in this situation?
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 09:55 PM
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A misfire can make those sensors go bad and it can also damage your catalytic converter. You have to find the cause of the misfire.
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 10:57 PM
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If you tried to sell it and no luck, I would try to keep it. There is no point in loosing more money then you already have by getting rid of it for cheap and still having to pay after. Do you have another vehicle that you could get around in? Maybe store it for the winter and save some funds to have it professionally looked at? I wouldn't give up just yet, it could be something simple that you are overlooking.

What mods are done with the car?
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 12:15 AM
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If you tried to sell it and no luck, I would try to keep it. There is no point in loosing more money then you already have by getting rid of it for cheap and still having to pay after. Do you have another vehicle that you could get around in? Maybe store it for the winter and save some funds to have it professionally looked at? I wouldn't give up just yet, it could be something simple that you are overlooking.

What mods are done with the car?
Yeah I didn't see the point in accepting 6 grand if I'd still owe 7 and virtually be paying on nothing. I'd rather just pay it off and keep the car.. I have an 05 ralliart thankfully that has kept me faithful to mitsubishi. I am going to see if I can get it towed to a garage to store it in for awhile. Now if only I had a better paying job..

HKS 272 cams
Crower Titanium Springs and Retainers
Cometic Head Gasket
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Those are the mods
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 12:35 AM
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I'm sorry to hear it man. I replied to your for sale thread for just this reason, stating that the buyer would be screwed if it wasn't just the crank position sensor. Good thing for a buyer, but bad thing for you. I think it'd be worth your time to get the car professionally looked at, as sometimes you exhaust all of your knowledge and resources. Especially since you owe a lot, and also since you have a lot tied up into fixing it, I would just keep it.

Is the car getting fuel and spark? Did the car run when you bought it? There is a lot of good information here on the boards, and I think if you have the time and are willing to perform the things that people tell you to do, you may find a solution.

Did you do a compression/leakdown test to verify the condition of your motor?
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 12:41 AM
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You have to find the cause of the misfire

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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 01:05 AM
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I'm sorry to hear it man. I replied to your for sale thread for just this reason, stating that the buyer would be screwed if it wasn't just the crank position sensor. Good thing for a buyer, but bad thing for you. I think it'd be worth your time to get the car professionally looked at, as sometimes you exhaust all of your knowledge and resources. Especially since you owe a lot, and also since you have a lot tied up into fixing it, I would just keep it.

Is the car getting fuel and spark? Did the car run when you bought it? There is a lot of good information here on the boards, and I think if you have the time and are willing to perform the things that people tell you to do, you may find a solution.

Did you do a compression/leakdown test to verify the condition of your motor?
Someone on here was telling me they were going to buy it and fix it, claimed he had all the parts necessary, etc, etc and never heard back from him. Seems to be my luck with this car, nothing ever works out. There's a local guy who knows a lot about evos and has blown a couple up himself but he has yet to reply to my attempts at contacting him.....

The car was getting fuel and spark, then it started doing nothing when I tried starting it. Nothing at all, and now the battery is pretty much dead so I assume that's what caused that? Hard to say honestly. The car ran when I bought it (I don't know how there were open wires everywhere in the engine bay the damn thing had a pathetic attempt of a switch to turn on the fuel system). About 2 weeks later it stopped running, $2k+ later it ran for a week and then this happened. Right after I bought brand new tires.. go figure. I believe I will just keep it and learn all I can about these cars. What do I need to perform those tests? I don't have the widest variety of tools available right now.

Also the type of misfire was when the car was cold at first. I'd start her up and start going up the road and it would sound terrible and have hardly any power.. Then after I had taken her through a few gears it ran fine and didn't misfire again until the next time it was ran cold?

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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 01:35 AM
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I'm sorry to hear about your bad experiences.

First, pick up a new battery from Wal Mart, so if it dies again you can just bring it back for a fresh one . It's an easy replacement. If it doesn't start after the new battery, check fuel/spark again.

Second, to do a compression/leakdown test, you need a compression/leakdown tester. You should become very good friends with the local AutoZone, as they will rent out tools to you for free, and they have just about every specialty tool you need. Rather than me write out the procedure for these tests, there are a plethora of professional write ups on how to do them across the internet.

It's tough to fix your car while you're learning, however, if you do, you'll gain much knowledge through it. I say stick it out, or sell the car to me and I'll fix it up and use it as a DD

You'll get a bagillion questions from people on the boards that will seem overwhelming at first. However, take a deep breath and do your best to try to answer them, as many of us have had similar experiences to what you're dealing with and have learned a lot from them. Thus, we can help you diagnose your problem with greater accuracy depending on the thoroughness of your answers.

Post back up once you have a new battery installed, and we'll go from there.
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 01:42 AM
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ur best bet right now is to keep it. store it until u have the money to take it to an EVO specific shop, if ur not inclined to do tests and stuff yourself given if u have tools or not. sometimes its cheaper and faster to just take it to a shop to get it fixed, rather than spend money on tools and not knowing how to do things and messing it up more. even buying random parts to replace because you think its the cause will result in more money down the drain. you have to find the cause of the problem, rather than fix what u think is. a misfire will mess up a lot of other stuff, and if u just change the other stuff, the misfire is still there. i'd advise to take it to a shop. good luck, sorry to hear about the bad buy. there are always people who get shafted by others. i know because it just happened to me.
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 04:49 AM
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Keep it brother, save your money and take it to a shop or find someone local to you that can look at it with you.
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue91lx
I'm sorry to hear about your bad experiences.

First, pick up a new battery from Wal Mart, so if it dies again you can just bring it back for a fresh one . It's an easy replacement. If it doesn't start after the new battery, check fuel/spark again.

Second, to do a compression/leakdown test, you need a compression/leakdown tester. You should become very good friends with the local AutoZone, as they will rent out tools to you for free, and they have just about every specialty tool you need. Rather than me write out the procedure for these tests, there are a plethora of professional write ups on how to do them across the internet.

It's tough to fix your car while you're learning, however, if you do, you'll gain much knowledge through it. I say stick it out, or sell the car to me and I'll fix it up and use it as a DD

You'll get a bagillion questions from people on the boards that will seem overwhelming at first. However, take a deep breath and do your best to try to answer them, as many of us have had similar experiences to what you're dealing with and have learned a lot from them. Thus, we can help you diagnose your problem with greater accuracy depending on the thoroughness of your answers.

Post back up once you have a new battery installed, and we'll go from there.
I think I will do the battery later after I find out the issue is. I don't know if I trust this motor anymore either I honestly just want to save for a brand new one so I have no worries. I'd say it's all yours but I can't sell it any cheaper than I had it posted so I'll keep it. I would much rather pay the loan off than pay 6-7k for nothing. I'll start by seeing if I can get it in my cousins garage to store and go from there. Going to try and get the loan redone today for a lower payment too. Will post back when I have any updates.

Edit: another idea I had was to see if someone would let me trade in my ralliart and the evo on another evo. I contacted a dealership in NC (I'm in Maryland) and he said he understood and all and wanted pics, etc. The sad part is if I traded them and came back I wouldn't have enough cash to get the car registered in Maryland. Can't catch a break lol

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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 04:37 PM
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Keep it, Fix it, LOVE IT!!!!!
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 10:52 PM
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Love is something I can't do right now, as soon as she is purring again she will receive all the undying love I have. Question though -- Will bad spark plug wires cause any of this? I never considered this a factor... Seeing as how the car stopped running when I was changing spark plugs, maybe the wires or one wire went? How would I be able to tell this if the car is not running?
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 11:05 PM
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Hence my "get a battery" suggestion.
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue91lx
Hence my "get a battery" suggestion.
Trust me if I could afford it right now I would. But it's either fix it or make the payment.. A detail I left out is that I'm only 18 working a rather dismal job and all.. but hey I'm trying!
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