Hey Guys!

Yeah, I'm back... Well, I never posted in the Evo part.. Just in the Lancers part. Since I own a OZ. ANYWAY..

First before I ask my questions.. This is what it is. My Auto shop teacher he owns a auto shop, and one of his workers (Who changed my Clutch in my OZ last weekend ^.^) has a Eclipse (Don't know the year or model) but, he does not have a normal old turbo. No no. He has a Diesel Turbo. (The engine still runs on gas) I'm not 100% sure of what he's pushing but I think it's around the 40+psi, and 600HP at the wheels.

Soo what I'm wondering is..
-Would any of yu guys put a Diesel Turbo in yur Evo's?
-How would yu be able to install a Diesel Turbo in a Evo? Cause I asked him how much it cost for him to do that to his Eclipse. He said the Turbo it's self was not that much. It was the Fabrication that was pricey.
-And How is this setup possible?!

AND NO! This is a Legit REAL Question. >.<

Thanks,
-Andrew

 

People have ran HX-35s and 40s in DSMs for years. You can find them dirt cheap and theyre super reliable. You install it like any other turbo.

 

a turbo is a turbo.... doesn't matter what type of vehicles they run on.
Here's 1 of many vehicles just for reference.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...4ws-tuned.html

 

holset turbos from dodge rams over the years is what hes using

hx35 hx40 are the options
think there 7 blade turbos and 8 blade turbo

and like the guy above me said, a turbo is a turbo doesnt matter gas or diesel

problem with the holset turbos are that there made for 8 cyl motors

what i mean by this is that the guy your refering to either strokered his eclipse motor which is a 46g3 motor making it a 2.3 OR he kept it a 2.0 built the bottom end and top end as well. the only way you make boost out of a holset on those motors is 6k rpms or making a stroker motor and then youll get boost at 4.5 - 5k rpms

and the only way to get any power out of them is to build the entire top end and rotating assembly so you can rev up to 9k rpms

so more or less, basically to run those turbos you have to drop a ton of money into your motor and tuning and supporting mods

there are a lot of other turbo options for dsm's or 2.0 motors your looking to turbo

try getting a 14b 1g turbo, small 16g, big 16g, or evo 16g turbos those set ups
make more realistic goals where you can go step by step and learn as you go

anyway thats my .02

 

^ Did you even look at the example that was posted? They may be meant for larger displacement motors, but a large frame turbo no mater what it is meant for will have increased lag on a 2.0. Yes you would need a stroked motor to get it to spool sooner, but the turbo engine combo just serves to shift your power curve to the right or the left. Smaller turbos and larger displacement shift it to the right, larger turbos and lower displacement to the left.

If you read the post he was making 30psi by 5k and took it to only 7500 on a stock block and a head with only hks272's and headstuds. I'd say that's pretty good for that size turbo on stock block.

Bottom line a turbo is a turbo and doesn't care whether it is made specifically for a truck or a car.

 

Well.... A diesel turbo is different from a normal turbo because of the amount of Boost or PSI you can produce.

 

nope

 

Every turbo has an individual thrust load / shaft speed limit. Those limits are exclusive to the turbo design, and has nothing to do with what car the turbo was originally shipped with.

 

No disrespect but not one thing you said about the holsets is true. I'm not sure if you've researched into Holsets but i know a thing or two about them so I'll try and clear up some of the misinformation in this thread.

there are many many different models of Holsets: Hx35,Hx40, W1c, He351, Hx52, and many others.

The ones most people use on gas cars are the Hx35, Hx40, and the He351.

These turbos came predominately on the Dodge cummins trucks from early 90's to late 2000's. the Dodge Cummins like the 12 valve and 24 valve are Inline 6's, not 8's as you said.

Also, Holset's are made to spool very quickly because diesel exhaust doesn't flow as gasser exhaust. Think flow capabilities of a gt35 but the spool of a gt30. You don't have to build your motor like crazy just to spool it. DSMers use them because they are cheap at can make great power.

Here's a great example of the spool characterstics of a twin scroll HX35

 

100% INCORRECT NONSENSE.


coming from a person who had an hx40, Bullseye housing, manifold, and downpipe and sold it all. its not worth it and in the end you'll spend more for a turbo that was designed in the mid 90's. your going to have to buy the bullseye .70 A/R housing ($200) so you can run a t3 exhaust manifold, you have to get a custom downpipe made ($500 for quality mandrel stainless), oil lines with restrictor (you'll have to find that yourself), and finally you will probably have to rebuild your turbo and that costs anywhere from $250-$500.

BadEVO ran a hx40 for a long time, search his name and research his setup. you'll learn that he switched to a precision 6262 and hasnt looked back. the precision JB 6262 is $900 and will spool up a few hundred rpm faster and will also be able to make another 100hp over what the holset is capable of. also many of our vendors have turbo kits built around a precision turbo so everything will bolt up without any issues, unlike the holset that requires extra parts + fabrication.

 

thanks for the education, ya never ran a holset set up just read a little here and there never really had an interest in putting one on my dsm
no disrespect taken,

 

^^ no worries. glad i could help.