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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 07:32 PM
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And who gives a $h!t about ACD, and AYC?? The ONLY place they make a difference is OFF ROAD, and how many of us are going to let our cars come anywhere near dirt and rocks?? Mine'll stay on the street, and the paved surface of permanent courses (I'm not a fan of autocrossing...sorry). Trust me, those of you who wish your EVO would've shipped identical to the Euro 7 you aren't missing a thing, and saying an STI is superior because it has these largely useless peices of equipment is just plain stupid.
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by ricardon
And who gives a $h!t about ACD, and AYC?? The ONLY place they make a difference is OFF ROAD, and how many of us are going to let our cars come anywhere near dirt and rocks?? Mine'll stay on the street, and the paved surface of permanent courses (I'm not a fan of autocrossing...sorry). Trust me, those of you who wish your EVO would've shipped identical to the Euro 7 you aren't missing a thing, and saying an STI is superior because it has these largely useless peices of equipment is just plain stupid.
Mitsu and Subaru made these cars mainly for everyday people driving on tarmac, are you saying everyone in Asia rallies? This is some funny stuff, tons of people on here said the US EVO better have AYC and ACD last year, and now all of the sudden ACD and AYC is useless???

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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 10:56 PM
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True but i wanted to buy ralliart parts, as i know about thier quality and preformance..so far all i've seen for this car from ralliart is a drop in filter.. i mean.. i wanan see some good quality parts... i do belive E8 will have better parts since we can use alot of em from japaness market and such..and teh sTi..well..lol..sux for them.
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 01:03 AM
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Originally posted by MEGABUSA
There are very few people that would be inclined to buy a car with no a/c and stereo just to save 100lbs though. I personally like light weight, but for 50lbs I will listen to my radio as I drive to work, and on hot days I will turn on the A/C vs sweating my ***** off.

I would guess about 1% of the people will actually drive a car with no a/c and no stereo.

Megabusa, i agree that the majority will prefer A/C and stereo, but by providing a choice, the manufacturer is able to satisfy both groups simultaneously . Besides, because these items are easily installable (unlike hardware items like LSDs).

You'll be surprised at how many hard-core enthusiasts there are out there. My '97 integra Type-R did NOT get A/C as standard . Of the 500 cars that were brought in during that year, it is estimated that at least 20% still dont have A/Cs.
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 03:39 AM
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I thought in the video of the Evo launch at the LA Auto Show they mentioned a time table for the RalliArt Evo. I don't remember too clearly right now.

Anybody else remember seeing this video stream?
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 04:25 AM
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Well you could always try to import the parts from Japaneseparts.com. Although it says the parts are for Evo 7 I suspect most of them can be used on the USDM Evo too.

(Disclaimer: I'm not affiliated with this vendor and make no warranty, expressed or implied, as it relates to their service or products.)
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 07:58 AM
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I had a 1997 ITR also. I bought it used with 5k miles, but after owning a S2000...... I personally did not like the ITR at all. I only kept it for 5 months then sold it.

Compared to the S2000, it was slower, body roll, etc.... (i did race it against my dads S2000, so it know it was slower).

Anyway...hopefully you will be happy with either the STI or the EVO.



Originally posted by 97itr153


Megabusa, i agree that the majority will prefer A/C and stereo, but by providing a choice, the manufacturer is able to satisfy both groups simultaneously . Besides, because these items are easily installable (unlike hardware items like LSDs).

You'll be surprised at how many hard-core enthusiasts there are out there. My '97 integra Type-R did NOT get A/C as standard . Of the 500 cars that were brought in during that year, it is estimated that at least 20% still dont have A/Cs.
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 08:42 AM
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saw an SIT yesterday, on the belt parkway near JKF airport in NYC
man it looks agressive blue tinted windows, gold 17" wheels. big red brake calipers.
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 08:56 AM
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as of now i think the prodrive package is just going to be asthetic/suspension upgrades... though i could be wrong... its just what i read....
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 08:59 AM
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maybe that was an SIT and not an STi. The STi has yellow calipers.
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by ricardon
And who gives a $h!t about ACD, and AYC?? Trust me, those of you who wish your EVO would've shipped identical to the Euro 7 you aren't missing a thing, and saying an STI is superior because it has these largely useless peices of equipment is just plain stupid.
I hope you're not tyring to downplay these features because we don't have them. The truth is, some people (that actually know what they are & haves used them) prefer, some people do not ... while others (like me) haven't tried it so what I don't know can't hurt me ... and the car handles great without it anyway. Then there are the people that believe that more is better but don't have a clue about either ACD or AYC in regard to performance, etc ... most of these people will have an STi.
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 11:16 AM
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I stand corrected, S T I and YELLOW Calapers. funny thing
about the driver of the STI, when i cought up to him he had on driving gloves those things went out with the 80's he must be working for some dealership if not subaru HQ, looked like the offical buisness nerd type. he said the car was from a dealer in Secaucus NJ. bogus, no Subaru dealership in secausus Nj.
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 11:30 AM
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whats the big deal with ralliart??? its expensive, its expensive, its not gonna be that hardcore of upgrades cuz factory upgrades never are hardcore and its most likely gonna void your warranty just like any other aftermarket parts.
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 11:37 AM
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In Europe I do believe Ralliart components do not void warranty, hence the "big deal" with Ralliart. I for one would like a US FQ version with full factory warranty, as I am sure many on this forum would. I would pay more for the peace of mind that having the warranty would give. Might also force some of the aftermarket guys to put warranty on their work???
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 11:55 AM
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here in the states, pretty much nothing is underwarranty. mitsubishi already had disclaimers in reference to modifying your car in their brochure so i dunno. also ralli art parts dont seem all that extensive and for the price there are other parts that are pretty much the exact same - with less history behind them that are performing extremely well.

one of the best mods you can do to ur evo is the turbo back exhaust with either hiflow cat or testpipe and o2 simulator. there is no way in hell that a part like this would be covered underwarranty by any aftermarket manufacturer - and from what ive seeen ralliart doesnt offer items like downpipes and boost controllers. or ecu upgrades - all which void your warranty. they dont seem to have an intercooler kit either, that might not void your warranty - also might not make a big difference with mostly stock parts.

ralliart suspension maybe the best bet because its not half *** like the engine parts . also other miscellaneous pointless parts for rallying that a street car wouldnt need would be good items as well, cuz i doubt other companies are gona make "gaurds" for the undercarriage and hi-power alternators.
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