new world record 8.225@169.17
Some mis-information in your post. This car is 100% CT9A chassis only with 10" out the middle and 3" out the roof. Then stitched back together with stock metalwork. Done to make the car unique. It's a heavy sucker too at 2650Lbs much heavier than most sub 2200Lb drag Evos.
I don't think using a bigger Mitsubishi rear end that is designed for the same type of transverse AWD layout changes the car from being an Evo. Mitsubishi just happened to put a bigger rear end in the 3000GT then they did in the Evo because it had more torque and was under a heavier car. To me, this is like having a factory built upgrade.
Turning the engine around and thus reengineering the entire driveline of the vehicle makes it into something else, IMO. I will think of this as a 4G63 powered vehicle, something like Brent Rau's car, but not like an Evo or DSM or AWD Mitsubishi record if it were beating John Shepherd's car.
Turning the engine around and thus reengineering the entire driveline of the vehicle makes it into something else, IMO. I will think of this as a 4G63 powered vehicle, something like Brent Rau's car, but not like an Evo or DSM or AWD Mitsubishi record if it were beating John Shepherd's car.
We all have opinions and I'm not going to set about changing those of the doubters. Some like black cars others like blue cars.....each to their own.
Record is now 8.22 though so get chasing. But to beat it you also have to lap a track the same or next day faster than a GT race car with the same vehicle. Or does that sound like a silly rule too? 😉
Check out the drag forum on here for the records, we're on it already and conform to those guidelines fully. Difference is we're now at the top. Question is, how long for. 😉
Record is now 8.22 though so get chasing. But to beat it you also have to lap a track the same or next day faster than a GT race car with the same vehicle. Or does that sound like a silly rule too? 😉
Check out the drag forum on here for the records, we're on it already and conform to those guidelines fully. Difference is we're now at the top. Question is, how long for. 😉
I fail to see why the driveline configuration matters at all...
Cutting 10" from the frame matters why? Half the drag cars are all running tubed front ends anyway. Along with STM's EVO that weighs 2,100lbs.
It's an EVO shell with a 4g63 motor. No matter which way you cut it, it's still the record holder.
I hate how people scrutinize and make reasons to justify why something isn't perfect.
Cutting 10" from the frame matters why? Half the drag cars are all running tubed front ends anyway. Along with STM's EVO that weighs 2,100lbs.
It's an EVO shell with a 4g63 motor. No matter which way you cut it, it's still the record holder.
I hate how people scrutinize and make reasons to justify why something isn't perfect.
This is a cool car that seriously moves out.
For me once you change to some special transmission no one else runs, it's dedicated. Others build up the stock trans and put it back in along with a built T-case.
I don't even care about swapping the rear end. That's similar to dumping AYC for a mechnical which many do.
But once you toss in that sequential $$$$ transmission you've left us street budget guys in the dust. I only care about people pushing the limits of what *I* could go do with my Evo. Otherwise I could just buy a FWD Fiesta and make it the AWD WRC car with all my money.
Of course dedicated Fiesta WRC cars cost $250K to build. To me that's an unobtainium car and I quite simply have to ignore it and focus on what I can obtain with "mere mortal funds". Same thing when it comes to a $13,000 or more transmission. To me it just doesn't exist in reality. I might as well be watching a $250,000 WRC car with one-off AWD transmissions that I can't have either. Things of fairy tales.
Claiming it runs and drives legally on the street isn't what I'm worried about. Unobtainium parts is where you lose me. It is however a very nice dedicated track car in my opinion.
For me once you change to some special transmission no one else runs, it's dedicated. Others build up the stock trans and put it back in along with a built T-case.
I don't even care about swapping the rear end. That's similar to dumping AYC for a mechnical which many do.
But once you toss in that sequential $$$$ transmission you've left us street budget guys in the dust. I only care about people pushing the limits of what *I* could go do with my Evo. Otherwise I could just buy a FWD Fiesta and make it the AWD WRC car with all my money.
Of course dedicated Fiesta WRC cars cost $250K to build. To me that's an unobtainium car and I quite simply have to ignore it and focus on what I can obtain with "mere mortal funds". Same thing when it comes to a $13,000 or more transmission. To me it just doesn't exist in reality. I might as well be watching a $250,000 WRC car with one-off AWD transmissions that I can't have either. Things of fairy tales.
Claiming it runs and drives legally on the street isn't what I'm worried about. Unobtainium parts is where you lose me. It is however a very nice dedicated track car in my opinion.
Last edited by acidtonic; Sep 22, 2014 at 02:06 PM.
Some mis-information in your post. This car is 100% CT9A chassis only with 10" out the middle and 3" out the roof. Then stitched back together with stock metalwork. Done to make the car unique. It's a heavy sucker too at 2650Lbs much heavier than most sub 2200Lb drag Evos.
I turned the engine round 5 years ago as I wanted to make the driveline reliable. Car runs Holinger RD6-S gearbox, no different to fitting a non std PPG box. Has an R33 GTR rear diff, no different to fitting a 3000GTO rear end, has a R33 GTR front diff, no different to fitting an aftermarket transfer case (Holinger or other). So not quite sure what the issue is??
Anyway the current holder Andre Simon from Speedtech NZ has congratulated us on "nudging his record lower" hell it's stood for nearly 5 years now!!
Our car is street registered and did this time on 17" street tyres. It's done a proven 202Mph and laps UK circuits much faster the bespoke BTCC racing cars with pro drivers. So I think the engineering behind it is pretty good. I'm well aware you can't please all the people all the time so won't try.......but facts are facts and records are the same. New target for CT9A is 8.22, believe it.
Si
I turned the engine round 5 years ago as I wanted to make the driveline reliable. Car runs Holinger RD6-S gearbox, no different to fitting a non std PPG box. Has an R33 GTR rear diff, no different to fitting a 3000GTO rear end, has a R33 GTR front diff, no different to fitting an aftermarket transfer case (Holinger or other). So not quite sure what the issue is??
Anyway the current holder Andre Simon from Speedtech NZ has congratulated us on "nudging his record lower" hell it's stood for nearly 5 years now!!
Our car is street registered and did this time on 17" street tyres. It's done a proven 202Mph and laps UK circuits much faster the bespoke BTCC racing cars with pro drivers. So I think the engineering behind it is pretty good. I'm well aware you can't please all the people all the time so won't try.......but facts are facts and records are the same. New target for CT9A is 8.22, believe it.
Si
you call your car a ct9a chassis but you cant even bolt the back doors back on. not to mention the mitsubishi drivetrain.
its not an evo anymore. its a contraption
Turning the engine around and thus reengineering the entire driveline of the vehicle makes it into something else, IMO. I will think of this as a 4G63 powered vehicle, something like Brent Rau's car, but not like an Evo or DSM or AWD Mitsubishi record if it were beating John Shepherd's car.
the EVO was made by Mitsubishi. its was built because they wanted to race in off road rally races. in order for them to do that they MUST produce and sell 5000 of the same car to general public. do you think the race car would have been able to compete if the car showed up with a nissan rear end and two doors chopped off. when all the productions cars got mitsubishi rears and four doors? hell no . they would have been laughed out of the pits.
thats what this is about for me. properly categorizing race cars. Simon built a one off race car how he wanted to. and that is all fine and dandy. but the parts he used and the way he did it changes what category he can set his records in. call it a personal record, . but dont call it an evo record. its not an evo anymore. there are much faster 4g63 powered one off race cars out there. he is in that category whether he likes it or not.
the annoying part is allowing the car owner to spout out what record he broke. he didnt break any record when you consider his car competes against the likes of 6.94 brent rau type cars.
thats what this is about for me. properly categorizing race cars. Simon built a one off race car how he wanted to. and that is all fine and dandy. but the parts he used and the way he did it changes what category he can set his records in. call it a personal record, . but dont call it an evo record. its not an evo anymore. there are much faster 4g63 powered one off race cars out there. he is in that category whether he likes it or not.
the annoying part is allowing the car owner to spout out what record he broke. he didnt break any record when you consider his car competes against the likes of 6.94 brent rau type cars.
Last edited by 94AWDcoupe; Sep 23, 2014 at 08:53 AM.
Norris regardless what everybody on here is saying, I give you props for keeping the car street legal. If you wanted to pop out to get fish and chips you could do it. Not too many drag Evo's I have seen can be easily driven down to McDonald's to pick up lunch.
People overseas do it different, and they do it big.




