Confused regarding realistic performannce???
#1
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Confused regarding realistic performannce???
Hi,
I live in Cairns Australia, I have spent many years slowly building my Evo 6.5
I recently decided to upgrade my turbo, intake and throttle body.
I keep getting told buy a tuner that hitting hitting the 400awhp mark will be unsafe (even if it is possible).... and to get anymore I will require E85
To be honest I am kinda pissed off so I would like to know on Aus 98oct (approx US 92/93 oct) is my car able to make decent numbers? or have I wasted my time on my lancer?
Tomei Adjustable Cam gears
ARP Head Studs (ARP Part # 207-4203)
3mm oversized Lash Adjusters (Hyd. Lifters)
Supertech Valves (Std size nitrided coated) (MIVN-1007)
Brian Crower Valve Spring + Retainers (part no. BC0100)
MAP Performance 2.3L Stage 2 Stroker Kit (DSM 7 Bolt / Evo)
>>>Crankshaft - Eagle Forged 100mm (2439375900B7)
>>>Rods - Manley Stroker I-beam (14400-4)
>>>Pistons - Wiseco 1400HD 85mm bore (K627M85)
>>> Bearings - ACL Main, Rod & Thrust (5M1219H-STD, 4B1185H-STD & 1T1219)
>>>Main Stud - ARP (207-5401)
Kelford Camshaft 272 (Part. 8-TX272)
AMS Race Balance Shaft Eliminator Kit (A0122A)+ Pulley Eliminator
DeatschWerks 1000cc Fuel Injectors (42M-02-1000-4)
Gates Racing Timing Belt
SPOOLINUP Coil on Plug Kit (COP) Coils = Toyota Denso 90919-02244
Intake Manifold - Ported/65mm Throttle Opening (Evo 9 JDM)
EGR Block Off Plate (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) for Evo9 Intake Manifold
S90 Throttle Body 70mm (S90-MIT-270)
Battery relocation kit
Monster Sport intercool piping (2.75")
Monster Sport Carbon fiber airbox
PWR Intercooler
Tomei front & dump pipe - Outter Diameter 70 mm (Inner diameter 65 mm)
Custom Exhaust and Hi flow cat back
STM Evo 8 oil Cooler (Part. 9127-7842)
TOG - Exhaust Manifold Stainless Steel 3.25 Thick -Equal Runners
WALBRO * 400LPH In-Tank Fuel Pump Kit
Intake Pipe 4" Custom (with 12mm 1/4 NTP attachments)
Pod Adapter 4.5" (Reversed to fit Monstersport airbox)
MAF Delete Pipe (Silicone 4.5" to 4")
Xtreme Clutch Twin Plate 230mm (KMI23522-2E)
ATP Garrett Stock Location GTX3582R Turbo Kit for Evo 4 Through Evo 8/9 - 700HP (4" inlet)
Link G4 (Mitsubishi EVOLink Plug-In (EVO8G4))
DBA 4000 Rear rotors
DBA 5000 Front rotors
Goodridge Braided Brake lines
BC Racing Coil Overs
Whiteline Rear swaybar (24mm Adj)
Ultra Racing Rear Strut Brace (2 Point)
Ultra Racing Front Strut Brace (3 Point)
Ultra Racing Fender Braces (6 Point)
Ultra Racing Side Underbody Braces (8 Point)
Ultra Racing Front Underbody Brace (5 Point)
Whiteline Front swaybar (24mm)
Ultra Racing Floor Bar (3 Point)
Car currently making 360bhp 533ftlbs torque.... which the tuners seem pretty proud of????? WTF??? I have been told it is impossible to make over 400hp without e85 or meth injection. Is this true? If it is, I have wasted my time/money building this car.
First Tune (Hi Low boost)
https://ibb.co/m1Orkk
Was not happy so I sent it back...
Second Tune (Cams were not dialed in correctly so they adjusted them)
https://ibb.co/mHjgkk
I live in Cairns Australia, I have spent many years slowly building my Evo 6.5
I recently decided to upgrade my turbo, intake and throttle body.
I keep getting told buy a tuner that hitting hitting the 400awhp mark will be unsafe (even if it is possible).... and to get anymore I will require E85
To be honest I am kinda pissed off so I would like to know on Aus 98oct (approx US 92/93 oct) is my car able to make decent numbers? or have I wasted my time on my lancer?
Tomei Adjustable Cam gears
ARP Head Studs (ARP Part # 207-4203)
3mm oversized Lash Adjusters (Hyd. Lifters)
Supertech Valves (Std size nitrided coated) (MIVN-1007)
Brian Crower Valve Spring + Retainers (part no. BC0100)
MAP Performance 2.3L Stage 2 Stroker Kit (DSM 7 Bolt / Evo)
>>>Crankshaft - Eagle Forged 100mm (2439375900B7)
>>>Rods - Manley Stroker I-beam (14400-4)
>>>Pistons - Wiseco 1400HD 85mm bore (K627M85)
>>> Bearings - ACL Main, Rod & Thrust (5M1219H-STD, 4B1185H-STD & 1T1219)
>>>Main Stud - ARP (207-5401)
Kelford Camshaft 272 (Part. 8-TX272)
AMS Race Balance Shaft Eliminator Kit (A0122A)+ Pulley Eliminator
DeatschWerks 1000cc Fuel Injectors (42M-02-1000-4)
Gates Racing Timing Belt
SPOOLINUP Coil on Plug Kit (COP) Coils = Toyota Denso 90919-02244
Intake Manifold - Ported/65mm Throttle Opening (Evo 9 JDM)
EGR Block Off Plate (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) for Evo9 Intake Manifold
S90 Throttle Body 70mm (S90-MIT-270)
Battery relocation kit
Monster Sport intercool piping (2.75")
Monster Sport Carbon fiber airbox
PWR Intercooler
Tomei front & dump pipe - Outter Diameter 70 mm (Inner diameter 65 mm)
Custom Exhaust and Hi flow cat back
STM Evo 8 oil Cooler (Part. 9127-7842)
TOG - Exhaust Manifold Stainless Steel 3.25 Thick -Equal Runners
WALBRO * 400LPH In-Tank Fuel Pump Kit
Intake Pipe 4" Custom (with 12mm 1/4 NTP attachments)
Pod Adapter 4.5" (Reversed to fit Monstersport airbox)
MAF Delete Pipe (Silicone 4.5" to 4")
Xtreme Clutch Twin Plate 230mm (KMI23522-2E)
ATP Garrett Stock Location GTX3582R Turbo Kit for Evo 4 Through Evo 8/9 - 700HP (4" inlet)
Link G4 (Mitsubishi EVOLink Plug-In (EVO8G4))
DBA 4000 Rear rotors
DBA 5000 Front rotors
Goodridge Braided Brake lines
BC Racing Coil Overs
Whiteline Rear swaybar (24mm Adj)
Ultra Racing Rear Strut Brace (2 Point)
Ultra Racing Front Strut Brace (3 Point)
Ultra Racing Fender Braces (6 Point)
Ultra Racing Side Underbody Braces (8 Point)
Ultra Racing Front Underbody Brace (5 Point)
Whiteline Front swaybar (24mm)
Ultra Racing Floor Bar (3 Point)
Car currently making 360bhp 533ftlbs torque.... which the tuners seem pretty proud of????? WTF??? I have been told it is impossible to make over 400hp without e85 or meth injection. Is this true? If it is, I have wasted my time/money building this car.
First Tune (Hi Low boost)
https://ibb.co/m1Orkk
Was not happy so I sent it back...
Second Tune (Cams were not dialed in correctly so they adjusted them)
https://ibb.co/mHjgkk
Last edited by SEETO; Apr 20, 2017 at 11:13 AM.
#3
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Torque seems very high and likely to wreck a stock transfer case.
Given that there may very well be differences in the dyno you guys use down there, I would reach out to these two shops and see what they think
http://www.hypertune.net/
http://meek.com.au/ocart2/
Given that there may very well be differences in the dyno you guys use down there, I would reach out to these two shops and see what they think
http://www.hypertune.net/
http://meek.com.au/ocart2/
#4
EvoM Guru
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Torque is likely in Nm, which is why its so high.
Is this a stock turbo? That would explain why power is low.
Is this a stock turbo? That would explain why power is low.
#8
EvoM Guru
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Oops, didn't see it in the sea of other irrelevant mods...lol
#11
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Thats quite a list of mods for hp numbers in the 300s i got a feeling you might need a new tuner alot of evo owners who have gone down the modding route got those numbers on a stock motor with at the very least a fuel pump upgrade and upped boost with your extensive mod list your power numbers should be way past 500hp especially with a built motor ditch your tuner now and bring that beast in hiding to a different shop and see what they get out of it.
#12
Check out and make contact with Benny @ Benchmark Solutions. He is on facebook and is widely regarded as one of the best tuners in the eastern states. I know he flies into various areas to tune cars, so at the very least he could provide you with support from his knowledge of the evo platform.. hope this helps
#13
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Thats quite a list of mods for hp numbers in the 300s i got a feeling you might need a new tuner alot of evo owners who have gone down the modding route got those numbers on a stock motor with at the very least a fuel pump upgrade and upped boost with your extensive mod list your power numbers should be way past 500hp especially with a built motor ditch your tuner now and bring that beast in hiding to a different shop and see what they get out of it.
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#15
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Thats quite a list of mods for hp numbers in the 300s i got a feeling you might need a new tuner alot of evo owners who have gone down the modding route got those numbers on a stock motor with at the very least a fuel pump upgrade and upped boost with your extensive mod list your power numbers should be way past 500hp especially with a built motor ditch your tuner now and bring that beast in hiding to a different shop and see what they get out of it.