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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 09:23 AM
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It is too bad some of these domestic owners can't see past the end of their nose. Some believe still that "Buy American" is the way to go...although try to tell them that their GM car is not produced here and they just don't get it most of the time!

But they will being seeing the glare of my taillights and the shining diamond-star as I pull on them!
Old Jul 9, 2004 | 09:29 AM
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A hot rod is a hot rod, is a hot rod. Who cares about where it comes from? If it is fun to drive and fast then it qualifies. I like American. I like German. I like Japanese, or Chinese, or Italian, or African, or wherever the hell it comes from. Fun and fast, thats what counts. Maybe some of these guys had their a$$es handed to them by a car from another country and they just cannot stand it, who knows.
Old Jul 9, 2004 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe's_EVO8
It is too bad some of these domestic owners can't see past the end of their nose. Some believe still that "Buy American" is the way to go...although try to tell them that their GM car is not produced here and they just don't get it most of the time!
The manufacturing plant doesn't get the profits, the corporatation does. Putting more labor out of the States puts more money into the pockets of the company as a whole. So "Buying American" holds more true now than it did when the cars were all built here. True, it does not help the overall economy regarding jobs but I think the logic is to not feed foreign companies when possible. Yes, there are mergers, aquisitions, partnerships, etc. and that cannot be helped. But usually, when that happens, both companies make more money than if they hadn't because their potentials markets both expand. So either way, if you want to help your country's economy, buy American. If you are a typical American that wants to help yourself, buy whatever you want. That's truly the American way anyways so no matter how you buy you will be supporting America, by dollar or by sentiment.
Old Jul 9, 2004 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by EVOTEXAS
The manufacturing plant doesn't get the profits, the corporatation does. Putting more labor out of the States puts more money into the pockets of the company as a whole. So "Buying American" holds more true now than it did when the cars were all built here. True, it does not help the overall economy regarding jobs but I think the logic is to not feed foreign companies when possible. Yes, there are mergers, aquisitions, partnerships, etc. and that cannot be helped. But usually, when that happens, both companies make more money than if they hadn't because their potentials markets both expand. So either way, if you want to help your country's economy, buy American. If you are a typical American that wants to help yourself, buy whatever you want. That's truly the American way anyways so no matter how you buy you will be supporting America, by dollar or by sentiment.

I used to be huge on buying American until complacent dealers tried to gouge me with repair bills when their cars fell apart prematurely.

After a couple of Fords and a Chrysler product I decided that the buy American deal was another marketing ploy to convince Americans to avoid considering foreign cars.

As a consumer I buy what's best for me, period. I'll not buy an inferior product because it was made by a big American corporation.

That, by the way, is the best thing for the economy. If forces dinosaurs to evolve or die, and it creates a healthy economy which is good for all Americans.
Old Jul 9, 2004 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaylenospoolboy
I used to be huge on buying American until complacent dealers tried to gouge me with repair bills when their cars fell apart prematurely.

After a couple of Fords and a Chrysler product I decided that the buy American deal was another marketing ploy to convince Americans to avoid considering foreign cars.

As a consumer I buy what's best for me, period. I'll not buy an inferior product because it was made by a big American corporation.

That, by the way, is the best thing for the economy. If forces dinosaurs to evolve or die, and it creates a healthy economy which is good for all Americans.
I am in no way promoting "Buy American." It was simply an observation. Look what I drive.
Old Jul 9, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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Yeah baby!

You're forcing them to evolve.

Do you think there would be an SVT focus or that little Dodge if the STI or the Evo didn't exist.

Notice they are still well behind the curve.

If you want a non japanese car that does what yours does out of the box, you'll loose 3 seats and pay 3 times more for the car and at repair time.
Old Jul 9, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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"Putting more labor out of the States puts more money into the pockets of the company as a whole. So "Buying American" holds more true now than it did when the cars were all built here."

Based on the above statement, it sounds like ole' G'Dubya himself is posting under the screenname EVOTEXAS?
Old Jul 9, 2004 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bamaevo
"Putting more labor out of the States puts more money into the pockets of the company as a whole. So "Buying American" holds more true now than it did when the cars were all built here."

Based on the above statement, it sounds like ole' G'Dubya himself is posting under the screenname EVOTEXAS?

That's the point. It's called empathy. BTW, when you want to have more money in your pocket do you spend more on services or less? You spend less. You save. Why should a company do any different? BTW, I work for a major player in the foreign car market and we have more problems with build quality with units made in the US than any other. There IS a pride difference. That's part of the reason every EVO owner is proud of the "100% Japan" sticker regarding build location and parts on the sticker when they buy the car. It only makes sense in many cases for US manufacturers to build outside the States. It's cheaper and provides in many cases better quality. If American laborers want to work themselves out of jobs, it's not the governments fault. Businesses make that decision on their own. Actually, the American buyer makes that decision for them.

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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by joeycoates
A hot rod is a hot rod, is a hot rod. Who cares about where it comes from? If it is fun to drive and fast then it qualifies. I like American. I like German. I like Japanese, or Chinese, or Italian, or African, or wherever the hell it comes from. Fun and fast, thats what counts. Maybe some of these guys had their a$$es handed to them by a car from another country and they just cannot stand it, who knows.
You talking about cars or women? I know you Joeycoates!
Old Jul 9, 2004 | 12:40 PM
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Most people I know are huge American car fans of the mind that it must be done obscenely loud, with a V8 of no less then 350 cubic inches, and never with a consistent idle. These same people seem to think that all american offerings compete and win on almost every level which sadly is just not the case at present. Before I really figured out what the automotive world was all aobut I was of a similar mindset, i.e. very anti import, but once you actually drive the cars and realize that every company out there is in it for the same thing, to take your money and give back as little as possible then I think people tend to accept and buy what may be superior in its class.

Edmunds 2004 GTO Review:

Forget about trying to put down this new breed by comparing its performance to its ancestors ("Back in my day, my stock GTO ran low 13-second quarters on bias-ply tires!" Yeah, right, and when I used to walk to school, it was uphill both ways.in the snow!). Blasting from zero to 60 in just 5.5 seconds and blitzing the quarter-mile in 14 ticks flat means a 2004 GTO will simply embarrass nearly any old Goat you could name.
The sooner most of the close minded enthusiasts catch on to reality as in the instance above the more accepted cars like the EVO/STI will be, for now I'll simply enjoy my "ricerocket."

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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 01:07 PM
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Both EVOTEXAS! But just like my Evo now, I am quite happy with what I have. And it is a lot easier to trade the car in than it is the girl!
Old Jul 9, 2004 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by joeycoates
Both EVOTEXAS! But just like my Evo now, I am quite happy with what I have. And it is a lot easier to trade the car in than it is the girl!
She must read the forums. Haha.
Old Jul 9, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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this whole thread is a ***** of a flames. must die.
Old Jul 9, 2004 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by joeycoates
Both EVOTEXAS! But just like my Evo now, I am quite happy with what I have. And it is a lot easier to trade the car in than it is the girl!
It depends if the car is running and the condition of the girl (or do I have that reversed). BTW, is your car running? What's going on with it?
Old Jul 9, 2004 | 01:23 PM
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Funny how quickly this thread went to politics. "Us vs. Them" classic example was when a japanese man designed the srt-10 viper, haha that was an uproar!!



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