Lately I am disturbed by a lot of people wanting to purchase the EVO. The following statements are true, and really bother me.

1. "I'm trading in my Lancer or Lancer OZ for a EVO!" Now why did you buy a Lancer/OZ in the FIRST place? A Ford Escort ZX2 is more sporty than the Lancer base model/OZ. The car has no performance capabilities what-so-ever. Kia and Daewoo were the contenders for econo-box cars such as this one.

2. "I will just modify my Lancer OZ to make it an EVO." Sure you can do it. New transmission, new ECU, new ENGINE, new suspension, new drivetrain.... it's an entirely different car. One dealer at Mitsubishi told me "Why wait for the EVO? Just buy a Lancer and turbo it, it's the same thing!". Different car, sorry. They have nothing in common except maybe some body parts, interior parts and the name Lancer.

3. Referring to statement one. Going from a Lancer to a Lancer EVO is like going from riding a skateboard to flying an F-16 fighter jet. Have you ever driven a high performance car before? Driving a turbo/all wheel drive sports car? I drive a Saturn SC2 (far quicker than a base Lancer OZ!). But I have driven a Celica GTS, an Eclipse GSX (SOLO II autocross), a Firebird Trans Am. I wouldn't dare put this car in the hands of anyone under the age of 18 either. You have to be a VERY responsible driver to own such a fast car.

It bothers me because it's going to cause the insurance for the car to fly through the roof and put this limited car in the hands of the wrong drivers, when real enthusiasts and racers are going to get screwed out of their EVO because some kid's dad had an extra 10K to give the dealer for the car.

That's all I have to say .... just bothered by recent threads and things I have been hearing.

*steps off the soapbox*

Mike

 

Very true.
I sell race karts - and the number of young kids that want to buy "shifters" - cause they think they are cool - scares me.
(a 125 cc shifter kart will do - 0 to 60 AND BACK to 0 in under 5 seconds)
Just in case any of you are thinking that I play with "toy" karts.

 

good points.......except age really isn't the concern. Its how people develop morals and other learned attributes. I can name many 18+ people who dont derserve an EVO due to irresponsibility.

 

I think there's a lot of people who are hyped up about the Evo arriving, but at $30,000 I don't think there will be too many 18 year olds driving them. There's always going to be a few, but I think the majority of the mature folks on here will teach them the way

Mark

 

You know I'll have to disagree with most of you. I believe that a true car freak starts at a young age. Me and my friend started when we were sixteen with our fiirst group six offroad race car, and yes we drove it. Granted we never won but that is not the point. I am soon to be twenty and maybe i won't be able to afford one right away but you can make damn sure I will within the next few years. A good driver told me that if you want it you can get it "Dennis Martin: rally driver of the EVO IV rally car". We are currently on his pit crew learning the ropes of rally racing. This will be our next step, we are gonna use a 82 celica hatchback as our base and run it in the michigan rally. This may come as a shock to you seeing as though my friend and I are only 19. So as you may have read your comments are a direct insult to me and others like me.

"I mean who is worse the experienced that believe they know everything, or the student who is trying extremely hard to get a foot hold"

Just a thought!

 

Fufi EVOII
Don't take it personally.
What I ment by my comments were that there are a lot of people that are new to performance karts (cars) and that they want to start at the top.

I commend you for what you are doing - actually getting out there and driving!

There are just so many "wanna be's" (both youg and old) that will get an Evo and have no clue as to how to drive it. Just like there are a ton of people that buy kick a** street bikes (Yamaha R1) as their first bike.

I curently have an S2000 and have had 2 others try and "race" me at the lights - IF they knew anything about the car they would know that it is not a drag car and that it sucks at "street" racing - but put it on a track and wheeeeee!

keep up the good work!

 

I wouldn't be worried about those young and irresponsible drivers regarding the EVO as you mentioned. There are way too many of those guys on this forum (and all the other ones), that make themselves feel much better about posting things like I am first on the list, and I can't wait to buy one and things. And some of us are not even that young any more and still have some of the hype about the thing and how we are going to buy it as soon as it shows up here.

The thing is that $30k or so is not that easy to spend at ones on one single car, and I am more that certain that most of those that are in the "show off" mode are just stay in that mode while behind the keyboards and that is it.

I could probably spend that much on the car, but there are other things that are important in life and if you ask me right now, I would rather have a house then an EVO next year, regardless of how much I would love to have that car

So, don't worry about the insurance and things like that. The car will probably jump into the highest step and people younger than 25 will feel that even more then those above that.

Also, there are so many available car for the young guys right now to put them in trouble (that is why they have that 25 year old thing insurance wise anyway) and that is where they are right now and that is where they will stay. To buy a brand new Honda is one thing vs. spending two of those to have an EVO, which falls into completely different world. In a few years, when we get used car market working its way, than most of us will be getting those cars and having more fun with them (young drivers included)!

Mr. AWD

 

Well it dosnt seem like any of you guys have ever lived in the suburbs. In my senior year there were multiple sr + jr kids who drove 30k+ cars. Still, most people dont know what the hell an EVO is, when I mention the Lancer is my favorite car they ask, "You mean that ****ty FWD sedan?". Hopefully the EVO7 recieves as small as a roll in FATF2 as, say, the RX7 did in FATF1. Anywho, I think its bound to happen, just look at the WRX for cryin out loud. Lets just hope it dosnt.

 

What I can forsee is similar to what happened with the WRX. A person driving into someone's living room. I think the WRX coming out first has absorbed a lot of the things you guys seem to be talking about though. Assuming AYC/ACD though it may give inexperienced or reckless drivers an inflated sense of security...we'll see I guess.

 

In many situations a AWD system in a car will be worse for inexperienced drivers. For instance if you start to slide in a normal rice burner "lets say a CIVIC" you give it more stick to keep it on the road. Newcomers to the AWD system will learn quiclkly that this is just not the case. People that live by me in wisconsin or somewhere with similar winters will learn that really quick.

 

I think that you guys need to realize a few things, an evolution is not the dream car of 50 year old men, not even thirty year old men, it is the videogame generation idol that you always hear it mentioned as in magazines, I realized this first hand when I was at my dentist and his 9 year old son knew what car I was talking about when I had mentioned that I had put a down payment on it that day. Now I am only 20, and I don’t mind telling you this although I know that I will be dismissed as "young”,” Naive", and inexperienced, but I have had a lot of racing experience and am in school currently as a mechanical engineer specifically for designing cars. Now I know plenty of 18-21 year olds who have the money, or whose parents have the money to buy this car or even a more expensive one. Age here is not the issue, the issue is the maturity level of the driver, and that doesn’t depend on age at all. so easy on the age discrimination

 

how on EARTH is that possible?!?

 

Power to weight, power to weight, power to weight.

 

That is completely true. However, we have all seen the maturity level in a lot of these "kids" on this board and that's the scariest part.

 

The evo VII RS-II has an extremely fast steering rack 2.0 turns lock to lock. That along with just electric turn in will give alot of people trouble. It is a car that demands your attenion. A parent would have to be insane to buy one for their teenager.

When our cars arrived at the RI several young (high school age) kids were looking at them. One was saying that his dad would like him to decide between the EVO and a SVT Mustang. I asked him if his fater liked him. The Evo is just not the car for a new driver.

Fufi Evo that may not apply to you. But you are not a typical young driver either.

Erik