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craig05evo Apr 5, 2013 09:12 AM

traction with high hp evo's.
 
My build is comming along well, but with a realistic goal of 550 awhp, I am thinking that I will have some traction problems. Can anyone chime in on some tips to improve traction on the street? I am running evo x bbs's with stock tires which I am positive will be inadequate.

sslevo Apr 5, 2013 09:14 AM

Are you talking about launching it or what? With 550 whp you may spin a little in first but after that you should be able to hook it up in dry conditions. I can spin the tires at 40 in the wet though.

craig05evo Apr 5, 2013 09:25 AM

Yes, wheel spin at launch or if I drop a gear. Ideally, I want to push the gas and go, not spin. So, would a wider wheel/tire and sticky rubber do the trick?



Originally Posted by sslevo (Post 10745565)
Are you talking about launching it or what? With 550 whp you may spin a little in first but after that you should be able to hook it up in dry conditions. I can spin the tires at 40 in the wet though.


CAD EVO Apr 5, 2013 09:38 AM

Problem with traction & high power is drive line components breaking, spinning your tires may save you some money :lol:

Raptord Apr 5, 2013 09:39 AM

Sticky, wide tire are your friend. RS3's, star specs, etc.

craig05evo Apr 5, 2013 10:28 AM

Good point, I guess a little spin would be ok


Originally Posted by CAD EVO (Post 10745633)
Problem with traction & high power is drive line components breaking, spinning your tires may save you some money :lol:


SDevo13 Apr 5, 2013 10:35 AM

In dry conditions with any high performance summer tire you should be fine. Slightly wider would be better (275's would be nice if you can fit them). Its not going to be remotely comparable to a rwd/fwd car of the same power level if that is what you are worried about.

If you are going to be launching the car a lot, be prepared for the associated costs - i.e. massive reduction in drivetrain service life.

CurseDSM Apr 5, 2013 10:39 AM

It has to do a lot with suspension, tire pressure and setup more then anything for drag. Main thing is make sure you have proper tire pressure that will help a lot.

mrboost05 Apr 5, 2013 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by Raptord (Post 10745636)
Sticky, wide tire are your friend. RS3's, star specs, etc.

none of those tires will really help with day to day traction or drag if thats what hes intrested in a softer side wall (wider) tire would help tho i have nt05 i run around on daily i am more scared of launching on those things then with my all seasons :lol:

Bramage_Dained Apr 7, 2013 11:17 AM

When my car made just over 500 it was fine with Star Specs and RE-11s.

Rain or sand on the road and it will get out of shape if you rip on it in 1st/2nd.

Now that my car makes ~900 though, it's a different story.

thestig0711 Apr 7, 2013 11:01 PM

You should be able to keep grip but it's always a fun to get a little squirrly in an awd car.

17pstockcar Apr 7, 2013 11:17 PM

What is the process of building your suspension the correct way?
lets say its a average daily driver looking for better grip on the road aswell as drag racing and a bit of autocross?

Cheers
Shane

bdonIX Apr 7, 2013 11:26 PM

You would be surprised how well you'll still be able to hook. Just get some wider tires. I'm just shy of 500whp on 255s and its perfect. I prefer my 245 set because a little spin for daily driving is good. Its not like a rwd at all though...even if I'm spinning, they still grab super quick.

Chriskeatingix Apr 8, 2013 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by mrboost05 (Post 10746469)
none of those tires will really help with day to day traction or drag if thats what hes intrested in a softer side wall (wider) tire would help tho i have nt05 i run around on daily i am more scared of launching on those things then with my all seasons :lol:

nt05's all the way ! I make 480whp and only spin on the launch with 255's

Kartracer550 Apr 8, 2013 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by craig05evo (Post 10745753)
Good point, I guess a little spin would be ok

indeed


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