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xMCxMRx May 27, 2014 03:34 AM

Car won't start :/
 
http://youtu.be/KinYunMY69E

Car was fine yesterday when I moved out to wash it. But is a no go this morning. Not sure if it's just the starter or something bigger. Thanks for the input.

egis May 27, 2014 03:45 AM

try camshaft position sensor it might get wet and short it out.

xMCxMRx May 27, 2014 03:55 AM


Originally Posted by egis (Post 11217470)
try camshaft position sensor it might get wet and short it out.

Any way to trouble shoot that without buying one?

NigHtcRawl3R May 27, 2014 11:42 AM

Sorry, off topic (or perhaps related to this?) Did you manage to fix your previous issue?

Pssst May 27, 2014 01:06 PM

did you try putting the car in reverse any gear and rolling it back and forth then trying again? heard of a few people that had to do this to get it to start...

Does pop starting it work? I mean it starts to crank so i would eliminate the starter...

Have you tried to hold your foot to the floor and then start it(this kills the injectors)

xMCxMRx May 27, 2014 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by NigHtcRawl3R (Post 11217873)
Sorry, off topic (or perhaps related to this?) Did you manage to fix your previous issue?

Not completely, I took it to my tuner to look at it. He checked all my coils and checked what I assume is continuity on them. We changed the plugs and after we did that and put a tighter gap on them. After that I was able to achieve more boost without the issue occurring. So he thinks that I've damaged a coil, more than likely in the process of removing my valve cover. I've thought that this may actually be related to the current issue, but won't know until I get home.

xMCxMRx May 27, 2014 04:37 PM

Just an update, pulled the starter. No teeth torn up on starter or flywheel. Also, had the starter checked and it's good, bendix is kicking out and spinning. I have spark, and I'm not throwing any codes. Next option? Lol

Cal City Evo May 27, 2014 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by xMCxMRx (Post 11218130)
Just an update, pulled the starter. No teeth torn up on starter or flywheel. Also, had the starter checked and it's good, bendix is kicking out and spinning. I have spark, and I'm not throwing any codes. Next option? Lol


Then you obviously have a fuel issue. If there is no fuel spark can't ignite anything. Check and see if your fuse for the fuel pump is good and if the pump is even working.

I listened to your link after I wrote the above. It sounds like you have no compression to me. Check and see if your timing belt is moving when you turn it over. There is more to it than something simple at least it sounds that way to me. I hope not for your sake though!

Come to think of it also it could be that the bendix is not kicking it in far enough. They do go bad. To my ears it sounds like it's not even turning over. Meaning the stater is just freewheeling and not engaging the flywheel. Hope this helps.

xMCxMRx May 27, 2014 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by Cal City Evo (Post 11218151)
Then you obviously have a fuel issue. If there is no fuel spark can't ignite anything. Check and see if your fuse for the fuel pump is good and if the pump is even working.

I listened to your link after I wrote the above. It sounds like you have no compression to me. Check and see if your timing belt is moving when you turn it over. There is more to it than something simple at least it sounds that way to me. I hope not for your sake though!

Come to think of it also it could be that the bendix is not kicking it in far enough. They do go bad. To my ears it sounds like it's not even turning over. Meaning the stater is just freewheeling and not engaging the flywheel. Hope this helps.

Currently, I tried jumping the car for giggles. I had a little slack up top by the cam gears on the belt. After trying to start it, the belt did get tighter. My dad was with me, and he said that he could hear the exhaust as I'm trying to start it. Do you know where the fuel pump relay is located, I've searched, but haven't had too much luck.

leemaster May 27, 2014 06:19 PM

Did your timing belt jumped a tooth? If the belt is lined up correctly it should not be loose ever. Also, an exhaust sound when cranking is a sign that the timing is off. I would turn it and check the timing to see if they all line up.

xMCxMRx May 27, 2014 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by leemaster (Post 11218191)
Did your timing belt jumped a tooth? If the belt is lined up correctly it should not be loose ever. Also, an exhaust sound when cranking is a sign that the timing is off. I would turn it and check the timing to see if they all line up.

The timing marks on the cam gears need to line up directly with each other correct? Like they have to touch?

xMCxMRx May 27, 2014 07:15 PM

Do they have to be at TDC? Or can I just count the teeth between them at a relative point?

lostsoulsevo May 27, 2014 07:23 PM

The timing marks on the cam gears need to line up with the marks on the valve cover. And the timing mark on the crank pulley needs to be lined up with TDC on the lower timing cover

smills1840 May 27, 2014 07:43 PM

Did you spray the bay when washing it? Even if you covered the filter and such, some water still may have found it's way somewhere and caused a fuse to blow or something to short out.

xMCxMRx May 27, 2014 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by smills1840 (Post 11218255)
Did you spray the bay when washing it? Even if you covered the filter and such, some water still may have found it's way somewhere and caused a fuse to blow or something to short out.

I didn't spray the bay directly, I'd say some water got in through the vent definitely. But it couldn't have been much more than a little bit of water.


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