Walbro 450 lph e85 fuel pump diy evo 8/9
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Due to the lack of thorough DIYS on this pump I decided to make one.
I replaced my aeromotive 340 after its second failure and after talking to the techs there it should not be run with e85 period. Car died 15 feet away from my garage this morning so I was able to source a new Walbro 450 e85 pump around noon today. On a scale of 1-10 id say this was a 2 or 3 since it is pretty straight forward. I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOU ****ING UP YOUR PUMP OR HOUSING, THIS WORKED FOR ME AND WILL WORK FOR YOU IF YOU TAKE YOUR TIME. PLEASE POST QUESTIONS OR PM ME BEFORE YOU MAKE A MISTAKE. THIS DIY ASSUMES THAT YOU KNOW HOW TO REMOVE YOUR PUMP FROM THE FUEL TANK WHICH CAN BE FOUND HERE http://www.evomoto.com/tech_info.php...36f08072afe3bd Tools/supplies needed: Flat Heat Screw driver Syringe Pliers Dremel with cutoff wheel Soldering iron Wire cutter/stripper Solder Heatshrink Zipties Compressed Air Note all you need as far as the fuel pump goes is the pump, 2x Fuel Injector O ring, worm gear clamp and a new oem sock filter (optional: can reuse your old one) There is no need to buy any of those install kits, everything is useless. The bigger sock filter will not work either because it will bottom out in the tank and starve your pump, trust me I tried that. 1. Lay it all out in a clean work area and try to get as much fuel out as possible http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8120/8...668b3f98_c.jpg 2. Remove return assembly, 2 hose clamps along with the bottom retainer. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8122/8...a7a56650_c.jpg 3. Remove the pump http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8115/8...cc701a25_c.jpg 4.Remove leveler, be careful not to break the hangar http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8126/8...94bcd5fb_c.jpg 5. Remove low fuel level indicator, dont forget to remove the O ring and put it back on the indicator. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8122/8...3634af2e_c.jpg http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8125/8...a0db42ea_c.jpg 6. Unplug the harness from the housing http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8109/8...0b35b5bc_c.jpg 7. heres a comparison, you can see how long the pump is. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8107/8...8dbf75a4_c.jpg 8.Test fit, as you can see trimming is needed. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8104/8...58c54a0a_c.jpg 9.Cut off the first barb, I used this syringe because I didn't want shavings to get inside the pump. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8111/8...25ca4c8a_c.jpg 10. 2xO ring plus reuse the oem rubber grommet http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8123/8...78736caf_c.jpg http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8111/8...36b83875_c.jpg 11. Seal off the holes with tape. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8110/8...5c7856bf_c.jpg 12.Dremel time, cut all the way around the housing right below the clips. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8122/8...c2eaee41_c.jpg 13.Heres the aftermath. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8111/8...457c6b59_c.jpg 14. I used a box cutter to bevel the edge in order to clean it up nicely. NOTE: I am using the blow duster to get all the dust off between these steps. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8123/8...67330952_c.jpg 15. Test fit, first times a charm, it should be snug. Also the black rubber grommet should not be visible if the pump is all the way in. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8117/8...f780fbfb_c.jpg http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8124/8...08e23680_c.jpg 16. Time for wiring, cut the connector off, its useless. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8099/8...c6eb13c6_c.jpg 17. Cut these 3 wires from the connector on the wiring harness. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8122/8...90d7c4de_c.jpg 18. Solder the blue wire with the red wire and heat shrink it, then the black wire to the black wire from the pump harness and the low tank wire. DO it right the first time, this is a critical connection. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8109/8...d2bbb71f_c.jpg http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8113/8...f838f950_c.jpg 19. Now reinstall the pump and the wiring harness, don't forget the o ring i mentioned earlier. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8106/8...213710c9_c.jpg http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8106/8...64575891_c.jpg 20. Reconnect the return lines http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8115/8...4814c938_c.jpg 21. Attach the lower retainer, AND YOUR FILTER SOCK and put one worm gear claml around the pump. IT IS NOT SHOWN BECAUSE I TRIED ADDING THE BIGGER SOCK. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8120/8...c244237b_c.jpg another angle http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8118/8...c0c3d02e_c.jpg 22. Heres my second zip tie for good measure. EDIT one worm gear clamp instead which is shown at the bottom of the post. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8113/8...69340b23_c.jpg 23. Add the leveler and the filter sock and you should be good to go! I TRIED USING THE SUPPLIED SOCK BUT AS MENTIONED EARLIER IT WILL NOT WORK BECAUSE IT HITS THE BOTTOM OF THE TANK. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8101/8...02aaf42a_c.jpg http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8113/8...49b5ac35_c.jpg ALL done! It took me around 3 hours from the time i removed the pump from the car and reinstalled it. I really took my time because you can mess up really easily. It may take a few cranks but your car should start if not your wiring is bad or you may need a new base map due to the extra flow. At the very least such as in my case I will need a touch up tune to fix the fuel trims. I had my aeromotive rewired as with this pump and it seems like the stock fpr is handling it fine. It isnt much louder either. Big thanks to FFTEC for supplying the pump within a few hours of me calling and thanks to Dave, Aaron and Mike for giving me some install tips. Good luck, hope this helps! Slight revision! Added a worm gear clamp instead of zip ties! As well as a second o ring underneath the rubber grommet. Pics |
Bro I just realized I forgot to put the lower portion of fuel sender back on the portion where the return drains into it looks like!
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Let us know how long it takes to fail... It will happen.
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Originally Posted by mitsubeastlee
(Post 10766280)
Bro I just realized I forgot to put the lower portion of fuel sender back on the portion where the return drains into it looks like!
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Originally Posted by grazzo77
(Post 10766300)
Let us know how long it takes to fail... It will happen.
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Originally Posted by xXANCHORMONXx
(Post 10766868)
Has yours failed? Do you have experience with this pump?
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Weird I talked to Dave and he had nothing but great things to say about this pump. Oh we.
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Originally Posted by grazzo77
(Post 10771922)
Yes, a few times unfortunately. I finally went to a FFTech Inline double using 255's. You guys should see the collection of fuel pumps I have...:mitsu:
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Great writeup thanks man!
Couple questions; Is that extra o ring on the outlet needed? Or is it just there for good measure? Also you say your stock regulator isn't being overrun with this pump rewired. Do you have a fuel pressure gauge. My regulator couldnt even handle a 255 rewired and my aeromotive fpr was being overrun before I drilled the siphon tube out. |
Originally Posted by nikg
(Post 10772885)
Great writeup thanks man!
Couple questions; Is that extra o ring on the outlet needed? Or is it just there for good measure? Also you say your stock regulator isn't being overrun with this pump rewired. Do you have a fuel pressure gauge. My regulator couldnt even handle a 255 rewired and my aeromotive fpr was being overrun before I drilled the siphon tube out. That's weird no I don't have a gauge. It's all stock with no fuel rail or any of that. |
looks good.
i have never been able to find a reliable reference for what that black wire at the bottom of the housing does. my thought is that it makes contact with the bottom of the tank to provide an additional ground. how did you determine that its related to the low fuel light? so you ended up using a stock size fuel sock? is it possible to use a low profile hose clamp instead of zipties to secure the cup? |
Originally Posted by Ev0ikon
(Post 10772083)
Are you certain that you used the ones made to Ethanol? Did you get refund/replacement from Walbro for those failed (E85 compatible) pumps?
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I can tell you the little black wire isn't for the low fuel light, as I discarded it when i went double pumper and the low fuel light still works fine... pretty sure it is an extra ground, for what I have no clue...
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Originally Posted by mrfred
(Post 10773641)
looks good.
i have never been able to find a reliable reference for what that black wire at the bottom of the housing does. my thought is that it makes contact with the bottom of the tank to provide an additional ground. how did you determine that its related to the low fuel light? so you ended up using a stock size fuel sock? is it possible to use a low profile hose clamp instead of zipties to secure the cup? Yeah the bigger one will not fit, if you try to use it the pump assembly will not seat ok the fuel tank without pressure which is bad. Even if you bolted it in you can see that if the sock is compressed it will restrict flow immensely. I believe you could I didn't have any handy. I'm going to pull the pump in 3k to put a new filter ands the put a metal clamp. It would have to be put on hand tight to avoid breaking anything. |
Originally Posted by Fast_Freddie
(Post 10773873)
I can tell you the little black wire isn't for the low fuel light, as I discarded it when i went double pumper and the low fuel light still works fine... pretty sure it is an extra ground, for what I have no clue...
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