Spider Web swirls in direct sunlight ...
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Spider Web swirls in direct sunlight ...
Whats the best way to get rid of these tiny hairlin swirls ? You can only see them if the sun is shining directly on my car and all around the spot there is a circle of tiny swirls...I went to a local detailer and he said to try using a type of gloss because it sometimes hides them. Im guna try to clay bar some of the bad spots and then hit it with meguires show room glaze and a orange cutting pad on a porter cable then follow it with some tech wax on a polishing pad.... Do you guys have any tips on how to get rid of this or if im doing somthing wrong by only putting on one coat or somthing ???
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Wow, it appears Electric blue swirls up easily. that looks almost as bad as black. I think out of all the colors the Evo comes in there are only 3 that dont show swirl marks and they are White,Silver, and Graphite Grey.
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But on GG, S and WW you can't see them that good, but they do take away the reflection of the car.
The best you can do is buy a detailing machine with the matching detailing pads and the whole package of Poorboy's
I'm going to do that also.
Meguiars is a very good product, but i could not manage to get all the swirls away.
The stuff you need is
Poorboy's SSR1 (finishing polish)
Poorboy's SSR2 (fine polish)
Poorboy's SSR2.5 (polish)
Poorboy's SSR3 (compound hard polish)
Then you need to finish with a wax i.e. : Gold Class or NXT Tech wax (Meguiars)
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^^^^^^^^^^^
Don't listen to this guy.
Go read up at autopia or svtperformance.com under show/shine is the best car forum detail forum I've seen.
It would be:
Wash
Clay bar
Wash again
Poorboys SSR 2 or 2.5 for most fine scratches etc
Poorboys SSR 1
Followed by Red Vanilla Moose looks awesome on dark colors
Followed by Natty's blue or Pinnacle or similiar.
Use a Orbital Porter Cable has many it would take pages to describe how and what to do, so just read up on those to sites. You can buy packages that include drying towels, MF towels car wash, clay, multiple polishes, sealants, waxes, pads etc from many vendors....again you can find them on those sites. The detail market is as intense as the car market prepare to put on your thinking caps because it is pretty amazing what a good detail can do and fix!!
FWIW Tarmac black is crap!! Mitsu pain sucks my black Saturn looks 2x as good after a full detail as opposed to the crappy pain that Mitsu uses.
Don't listen to this guy.
Go read up at autopia or svtperformance.com under show/shine is the best car forum detail forum I've seen.
It would be:
Wash
Clay bar
Wash again
Poorboys SSR 2 or 2.5 for most fine scratches etc
Poorboys SSR 1
Followed by Red Vanilla Moose looks awesome on dark colors
Followed by Natty's blue or Pinnacle or similiar.
Use a Orbital Porter Cable has many it would take pages to describe how and what to do, so just read up on those to sites. You can buy packages that include drying towels, MF towels car wash, clay, multiple polishes, sealants, waxes, pads etc from many vendors....again you can find them on those sites. The detail market is as intense as the car market prepare to put on your thinking caps because it is pretty amazing what a good detail can do and fix!!
FWIW Tarmac black is crap!! Mitsu pain sucks my black Saturn looks 2x as good after a full detail as opposed to the crappy pain that Mitsu uses.
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^^^^^^^^^^^
Don't listen to this guy.
Go read up at autopia or svtperformance.com under show/shine is the best car forum detail forum I've seen.
It would be:
Wash
Clay bar
Wash again
Poorboys SSR 2 or 2.5 for most fine scratches etc
Poorboys SSR 1
Followed by Red Vanilla Moose looks awesome on dark colors
Followed by Natty's blue or Pinnacle or similiar.
Use a Orbital Porter Cable has many it would take pages to describe how and what to do, so just read up on those to sites. You can buy packages that include drying towels, MF towels car wash, clay, multiple polishes, sealants, waxes, pads etc from many vendors....again you can find them on those sites. The detail market is as intense as the car market prepare to put on your thinking caps because it is pretty amazing what a good detail can do and fix!!
FWIW Tarmac black is crap!! Mitsu pain sucks my black Saturn looks 2x as good after a full detail as opposed to the crappy pain that Mitsu uses.
Don't listen to this guy.
Go read up at autopia or svtperformance.com under show/shine is the best car forum detail forum I've seen.
It would be:
Wash
Clay bar
Wash again
Poorboys SSR 2 or 2.5 for most fine scratches etc
Poorboys SSR 1
Followed by Red Vanilla Moose looks awesome on dark colors
Followed by Natty's blue or Pinnacle or similiar.
Use a Orbital Porter Cable has many it would take pages to describe how and what to do, so just read up on those to sites. You can buy packages that include drying towels, MF towels car wash, clay, multiple polishes, sealants, waxes, pads etc from many vendors....again you can find them on those sites. The detail market is as intense as the car market prepare to put on your thinking caps because it is pretty amazing what a good detail can do and fix!!
FWIW Tarmac black is crap!! Mitsu pain sucks my black Saturn looks 2x as good after a full detail as opposed to the crappy pain that Mitsu uses.
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^^^^^^^^^^^
Don't listen to this guy.
Go read up at autopia or svtperformance.com under show/shine is the best car forum detail forum I've seen.
It would be:
Wash
Clay bar
Wash again
Poorboys SSR 2 or 2.5 for most fine scratches etc
Poorboys SSR 1
Followed by Red Vanilla Moose looks awesome on dark colors
Followed by Natty's blue or Pinnacle or similiar.
Use a Orbital Porter Cable has many it would take pages to describe how and what to do, so just read up on those to sites. You can buy packages that include drying towels, MF towels car wash, clay, multiple polishes, sealants, waxes, pads etc from many vendors....again you can find them on those sites. The detail market is as intense as the car market prepare to put on your thinking caps because it is pretty amazing what a good detail can do and fix!!
FWIW Tarmac black is crap!! Mitsu pain sucks my black Saturn looks 2x as good after a full detail as opposed to the crappy pain that Mitsu uses.
Don't listen to this guy.
Go read up at autopia or svtperformance.com under show/shine is the best car forum detail forum I've seen.
It would be:
Wash
Clay bar
Wash again
Poorboys SSR 2 or 2.5 for most fine scratches etc
Poorboys SSR 1
Followed by Red Vanilla Moose looks awesome on dark colors
Followed by Natty's blue or Pinnacle or similiar.
Use a Orbital Porter Cable has many it would take pages to describe how and what to do, so just read up on those to sites. You can buy packages that include drying towels, MF towels car wash, clay, multiple polishes, sealants, waxes, pads etc from many vendors....again you can find them on those sites. The detail market is as intense as the car market prepare to put on your thinking caps because it is pretty amazing what a good detail can do and fix!!
FWIW Tarmac black is crap!! Mitsu pain sucks my black Saturn looks 2x as good after a full detail as opposed to the crappy pain that Mitsu uses.
Dude do you think i'm stupid or something??????
I've done enough research to know what i'm talking about.
btw the porter cable is soon to be replaced by the UDM (Ultimate Detailing Machine) which is more powerfull and has more excentric movement.....
I've spend almost 800$ on detailing product for my car and have some expirience in these thing.
So don't just call me a stupid by telling people to don't listen to me......
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You have all of the Poorboy products in reverse order first of all. There is no need to use all of them anyway. Secondly in inexperienced hands you want a safe eccentric/orbital like a PC 7336/similiar once you have that mastered which takes time then you can move on to a rotary and wet sanding and really turn a factory paint job into a show quality car.
Change your post and your Poorboy product descriptions then people might listen to you.
Change your post and your Poorboy product descriptions then people might listen to you.
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You have all of the Poorboy products in reverse order first of all. There is no need to use all of them anyway. Secondly in inexperienced hands you want a safe eccentric/orbital like a PC 7336/similiar once you have that mastered which takes time then you can move on to a rotary and wet sanding and really turn a factory paint job into a show quality car.
Change your post and your Poorboy product descriptions then people might listen to you.
Change your post and your Poorboy product descriptions then people might listen to you.
About the PC and/or UDM.
The UDM is also safe because it's (more)excentrical then the PC.
Rotary indeed is very dangerous if you are inexperienced, but both of the above mentioned machines are relatively safe to use.
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Like Jasil said I would do some research on sites like autopia.org. There are a lot of product reviews and how to's for how to deal with various paint issues. There are also some write ups and discussions on here about detailing.
If the swirling is light you prob only need to polish, but if it is bad you will have to compound. I would claybar before doing either if you haven't already. I would be careful and do some research though before doing anything and make sure you have a good combo that will not make things worse or make more work for yourself than is necessary. Also using the right washing and drying tools (ie:good microfiber towels) will help to minimize the swirling in the first place.
If the swirling is light you prob only need to polish, but if it is bad you will have to compound. I would claybar before doing either if you haven't already. I would be careful and do some research though before doing anything and make sure you have a good combo that will not make things worse or make more work for yourself than is necessary. Also using the right washing and drying tools (ie:good microfiber towels) will help to minimize the swirling in the first place.