Swift Spec R's Reviewed!!!
Dec 24, 2008, 06:27 AM
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evozmarine - its all about valving. The HD's are superior in that arena, translating into more constant performance over the track. And they are a little bit softer than the KYB's in lower speeds, makes them nice around town.
dbears - some of the data plots from the great thread below. I do not have the Sports data plots. But they should be similar, based on how these feel on the car.
Andrew and I were talking about it last night:
The data plots show that after the initial 0.5in or so the rates increase then level out near the end of the compression.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...out-there.html
jcal - depends on the springs used in those suspensions. Off the shelf KWs are 8k/7k if I remember right. And I want to say 7k/8k for the JIC's. These are 6.4k/6.8k or 30-70lbs/in difference (6.4 v 7k and 6.8 v 8k).
dbears - some of the data plots from the great thread below. I do not have the Sports data plots. But they should be similar, based on how these feel on the car.
Andrew and I were talking about it last night:
Originally Posted by GTWORX.com
The dead coils basically are the softer end of the progression and are there as helper springs pretty much to keep the spring seated at full droop. So this is where the drop comes from...meaning they don't just use a shorter spring. A lot of the softer end of the progression is fully closed at rest. So they are not quite as progressive as they seem. Depending on how Swift did it, after the initial bump you could feel some of the progressiveness.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...out-there.html
jcal - depends on the springs used in those suspensions. Off the shelf KWs are 8k/7k if I remember right. And I want to say 7k/8k for the JIC's. These are 6.4k/6.8k or 30-70lbs/in difference (6.4 v 7k and 6.8 v 8k).
Dec 28, 2008, 04:53 PM
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Hmm, I had planned on a set of coilovers, but after more consideration, I think I am going to go for this setup and put the extra money towards HPDEs and autocross schools. 
Dec 29, 2008, 07:57 AM
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dbears - some of the data plots from the great thread below. I do not have the Sports data plots. But they should be similar, based on how these feel on the car.
Andrew and I were talking about it last night:
The data plots show that after the initial 0.5in or so the rates increase then level out near the end of the compression.
jcal - depends on the springs used in those suspensions. Off the shelf KWs are 8k/7k if I remember right. And I want to say 7k/8k for the JIC's. These are 6.4k/6.8k or 30-70lbs/in difference (6.4 v 7k and 6.8 v 8k).
Andrew and I were talking about it last night:
The data plots show that after the initial 0.5in or so the rates increase then level out near the end of the compression.
jcal - depends on the springs used in those suspensions. Off the shelf KWs are 8k/7k if I remember right. And I want to say 7k/8k for the JIC's. These are 6.4k/6.8k or 30-70lbs/in difference (6.4 v 7k and 6.8 v 8k).
Also, the standard rates for KW V3 are 9k/6k (i.e. bad, get custom rates) and for the JIC's i'm not sure.
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Dec 29, 2008, 07:57 AM
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Correct, -1.4 in the front and -0.8 in the rear.
Around $1500 for everything (struts, springs, sways). Which is still cheaper than a proper set of coil-overs and you don't have to worry about winter salt on seizing parts.
From driving on them, I would say the spring plots are correct. Little bite (soft area) then right into the stiffer rating.
Around $1500 for everything (struts, springs, sways). Which is still cheaper than a proper set of coil-overs and you don't have to worry about winter salt on seizing parts.
From driving on them, I would say the spring plots are correct. Little bite (soft area) then right into the stiffer rating.
Dec 29, 2008, 10:23 AM
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I plan on the Evo AutoX school in Boston May 9th and 10th:
http://www.evoschool.com/index.php?p...-and-challenge
I'm thinking about doing Phase 1 Saturday and then Phase 2 the next day.
I'm also eyeing doing an HPDE with NASA at Lime Rock and one at NHMS with COM throughout the year.