RobiSpec ClubSports vs Ohlins Road & Track Coilovers
Aug 11, 2012, 12:25 PM
#1
RobiSpec ClubSports vs Ohlins Road & Track Coilovers
so im currently running RobiSpec ClubSport coilovers with 8k/10k spring rates, but i switch over from *specs to some used Hoosier R6 tires. i soon realized that running 3* camber up front wont cut it, like i was told, and been looking for a set of camberplates. i've also been contemplating getting stiffer spring rates like 10k/12k. the thing though is with the money i would end up spending on camberplates and spring i would be able to afford a set of Ohlins if i sold the KWs,
so, my question is, am i better off keeping the KWs or getting a set of Ohlins?
so, my question is, am i better off keeping the KWs or getting a set of Ohlins?
Aug 11, 2012, 02:14 PM
#2
so im currently running RobiSpec ClubSport coilovers with 8k/10k spring rates, but i switch over from *specs to some used Hoosier R6 tires. i soon realized that running 3* camber up front wont cut it, like i was told, and been looking for a set of camberplates. i've also been contemplating getting stiffer spring rates like 10k/12k. the thing though is with the money i would end up spending on camberplates and spring i would be able to afford a set of Ohlins if i sold the KWs,
so, my question is, am i better off keeping the KWs or getting a set of Ohlins?
so, my question is, am i better off keeping the KWs or getting a set of Ohlins?
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Aug 19, 2012, 01:16 PM
#10
The subaru I get to drive periodically on KW's rides pretty terrible. They work as a shock but similar to Koni's have so much compression valving and not nearly digressive enough that they ride terrible.
My Evo is on AST5100s and my co-drivers is on Ohlins, both run higher spring rates yet ride significantly better. Its not the corner transitions or maximum grip that get you the improvement, its the stability over rough surfaces that upset the car much less.
Aug 19, 2012, 01:39 PM
#11
Did you not read my post? I told you why...
The subaru I get to drive periodically on KW's rides pretty terrible. They work as a shock but similar to Koni's have so much compression valving and not nearly digressive enough that they ride terrible.
My Evo is on AST5100s and my co-drivers is on Ohlins, both run higher spring rates yet ride significantly better. Its not the corner transitions or maximum grip that get you the improvement, its the stability over rough surfaces that upset the car much less.
The subaru I get to drive periodically on KW's rides pretty terrible. They work as a shock but similar to Koni's have so much compression valving and not nearly digressive enough that they ride terrible.
My Evo is on AST5100s and my co-drivers is on Ohlins, both run higher spring rates yet ride significantly better. Its not the corner transitions or maximum grip that get you the improvement, its the stability over rough surfaces that upset the car much less.
also, where the KW's on the Subi the RobiSpec ones, or just regular v3s? reason i ask is because the RobiSpec ClubSports are "outfitted with increased spring rates, tuned valving and large diameter piston rods", and i know that the regular v3s aren't valved to well out of the box for a evo/sti.
Aug 19, 2012, 01:42 PM
#12
Did you not read my post? I told you why...
The subaru I get to drive periodically on KW's rides pretty terrible. They work as a shock but similar to Koni's have so much compression valving and not nearly digressive enough that they ride terrible.
My Evo is on AST5100s and my co-drivers is on Ohlins, both run higher spring rates yet ride significantly better. Its not the corner transitions or maximum grip that get you the improvement, its the stability over rough surfaces that upset the car much less.
The subaru I get to drive periodically on KW's rides pretty terrible. They work as a shock but similar to Koni's have so much compression valving and not nearly digressive enough that they ride terrible.
My Evo is on AST5100s and my co-drivers is on Ohlins, both run higher spring rates yet ride significantly better. Its not the corner transitions or maximum grip that get you the improvement, its the stability over rough surfaces that upset the car much less.
^ thats why. I also have multiple friends with the subie KW v3 and the revalved RCE/GtWorx tarmac II and their ride on 6 and 7k springs is terrible. Just....bad. They can't outcorner me on rough terrain. And my ohlins rides better than my fellow evo owner's swift sport/revalved bilstein setup. The damping also changes significantly with each click of the damper. I have a video to illustrate that:
Last edited by deeman101; Aug 19, 2012 at 01:46 PM.
Aug 19, 2012, 02:02 PM
#13
^ thats why. I also have multiple friends with the subie KW v3 and the revalved RCE/GtWorx tarmac II and their ride on 6 and 7k springs is terrible. Just....bad. They can't outcorner me on rough terrain. And my ohlins rides better than my fellow evo owner's swift sport/revalved bilstein setup. The damping also changes significantly with each click of the damper. I have a video to illustrate that: http://youtu.be/rV0pvJpxO7Y
thanks for conforming everything i was thinking but wasn't sure about. kinda laughed a little at the end of the vid cuz i kept seeing u grab the handbrake making me think u were going to pull it and start drifting (been watching too many ricer vids on youtube
) and then you rear end stepped out.
Aug 19, 2012, 08:06 PM
#15
i did but it was a little vague. ur last post is what i was looking for
also, where the KW's on the Subi the RobiSpec ones, or just regular v3s? reason i ask is because the RobiSpec ClubSports are "outfitted with increased spring rates, tuned valving and large diameter piston rods", and i know that the regular v3s aren't valved to well out of the box for a evo/sti.
also, where the KW's on the Subi the RobiSpec ones, or just regular v3s? reason i ask is because the RobiSpec ClubSports are "outfitted with increased spring rates, tuned valving and large diameter piston rods", and i know that the regular v3s aren't valved to well out of the box for a evo/sti.
Admittedly I dont have experience on the evo version, but I highly doubt their is much difference since they are pretty close in weight, balance, and awd. Though the motion ratios are a different.
If you can afford the Ohlin's, get them.. You love em. What everyone says is so good about the bilsteins is everything that is good about ohlin's, except you can run higher spring rates to reduce roll.