Goodridge front brake line too short
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Goodridge front brake line too short
This is the latest revision of the Goodridge front brake line with the wheel turned full lock and suspension fully extended. Sure seems to me that at full lock with the suspension fully compressed that there would be too much angle on the line. As far as I can tell the Goodridge line is maybe 1/2" longer than stock, but the fittings on the end are somewhat longer and cause effective loss of length.
Any opinions/experience on whether this is too short?
Any opinions/experience on whether this is too short?
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Lightsaber (Jul 8, 2023)
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I have decided that this is problematically too short even for a completely stock suspension. While I doubt that the lines could get ripped off under normal driving, my guess is that fatigue failure of the hose will take place at the hose-end connection much more quickly than a brake line with more hose length. When I showed this photo to Goodridge, there was initial interest to understand the issue, but management told the person helping me to advise me that Goodridge only makes lines for OEM fitment, and if I didn't feel comfortable using these, then I should take them off the car. So I guess they'll be coming off.
There's a happy ending though. I decided to contact Techna-fit, and they said that their lines are longer than stock to prevent this kind of issue, and they are also willing to make a custom set for me to deal with lowered cars where additional brake line length is beneficial to prevent fatigue. So I've got a custom set in production now. Same price as their standard brake line kit. Very cool.
There's a happy ending though. I decided to contact Techna-fit, and they said that their lines are longer than stock to prevent this kind of issue, and they are also willing to make a custom set for me to deal with lowered cars where additional brake line length is beneficial to prevent fatigue. So I've got a custom set in production now. Same price as their standard brake line kit. Very cool.
Last edited by mrfred; Jul 11, 2017 at 08:40 AM.
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There's a happy ending though. I decided to contact Techna-fit, and they said that their lines are longer than stock to prevent this kind of issue, and they are also willing to make a custom set for me to deal with lowered cars where additional brake line length is beneficial to prevent fatigue. So I've got a custom set in production now. Same price as their standard brake line kit. Very cool.
How much longer are you going?
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They suggested 3/8" longer than their standard length would be sufficient. But their standard length is already 1/4" longer. It doesn't seem like a big change to me, but I think that part of the issue with the Goodridge lines is the length of the hose-end fittings. Both ends, especially at the caliper end, are longer than stock while the total length of the line appears to be about the same as stock. The fitting at the caliper cannot be bent over like soft line, so it limits how much soft line pull through the anchor on the strut to position between the strut and the car body. If I go with Techna-fit's recommendation, my guess is that the line will effectively be 3/4" longer than the Goodridge. If I do an a2 + b2 = c2 calculation, I find that 3/4" that should give another 3.25" of upward movement of the strut before the hose bend at the connection to the hardline starts looking like it does in my photo.
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I think my car has goodridge lines. I don't remember noticing this issue. I'll have to look.
I've been wanting to do my brakelines like the Evo X. Hardline from the caliper to the mount on the strut, then soft line to the chassis hard line.
I've been wanting to do my brakelines like the Evo X. Hardline from the caliper to the mount on the strut, then soft line to the chassis hard line.
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Yeah, you can make that bracket more low profile, or relocate it entirely.
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Flip the bracket on the back of the shock. Its sandwiched between 2 hex bolts I think. I had the same issue as far as inner fender clearance and found that flipping it solved the issue. As far as being too short, I used to have goodrige lines and didnt have this problem but my old buddy club coil-overs didnt have a line mount...
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Flip the bracket on the back of the shock. Its sandwiched between 2 hex bolts I think. I had the same issue as far as inner fender clearance and found that flipping it solved the issue. As far as being too short, I used to have goodrige lines and didnt have this problem but my old buddy club coil-overs didnt have a line mount...
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Those are Eibach spring bags. Part number is Eibach (ESB10.250) 2.5" x 10" Spring Bag. I got 10" bags to cover the coilover threads somewhat.
The work well for the front, but not so well for the rear. At the rear, there is no place for the elastic band to go at the top of the coilover, so I had to cut the elastic off the top, and then the velcro needs to be re-sewn.