Meevo

So if I do get the Spec R's and a RCK, essentially there is nothing to worry about in terms of the lower springs in the front, is there?

Bster13

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I think so, but I'll let someone more experienced answer. I went with the GTWORX springs because it did not lower it much and didn't ~need~ a roll center kit. I'm not saying the spec Rs do, but it's more likely since it drops it more.

Meevo

That's what I was thinking, what does it matter if the roll center will be bothered if you're going to install a RCK anyway, as I was?

Bster13

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My understanding is the RCK is a nice to have w/ the Swift/GTWORX springs, not a need to have. But again, I'll wait for others to chime in. If u're buying the RCK no matter what, then u're all set. GL.

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That pretty much sums it up. A "nice to have" but keep in mind a lot of people are restricted by auto-x rules and can't run it, but do fine anyway.

But you will feel a positive difference with it. It's a good part.

- drew

FJF

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Drew, if one installs Swifts, for example, does the RCK correct the suspension geometry to stock form?

Meevo

Oh, is RCK not allowed by auto-x period, or just certain classes?

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Off the top of my head I think it brings the roll center close, but definitely not 100%. But you do have a lower COG which helps, and it's how this works with the roll center that matters. So it's not as simple as just getting it back to stock. I haven't plotted it out with the WL kit.

I think Whiteline's kit for the Subaru gave a number for what kind of drop it would "correct" but I'm not 100% on that.

Again, roll center is a concern but for a lot of springs out there it's the loss of travel that worries me more.

- Andrew

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I'm not the person to ask there, but I think in most classes it's illegal. But for local "just for fun" autocrosses it doesn't really matter.

- Andrew

Meevo

Ok. I'm thinking more and more that I'll be ordering some things from you very soon - Do you recommend waiting til Spring to install them, or does it not matter?

FJF

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I appreciate the learned reply.

...same here.

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It's cold as poop out today! Haha....I hate working on the car with cold knuckles. That's the only thing stopping me.


No problem.

- Andrew

Smike

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http://www.scca.com/documents/Solo%2...lo_Rules_2.pdf

SM Rules - no problems that I can see. Page 100 or so in the rule book.

Suspension components are unrestricted as long as they use the
original attachment points. For the purposes of this rule,
“suspension” is defined as any item that is designed to move
when a wheel is deflected vertically. This includes shocks and
struts, control arms, steering knuckles, uprights, etc., but not tie
rods, steering racks, and subframes. In addition, shock absorber/
strut upper mounts are to be considered suspension
components.

Street Touring - page 74

Ride height may only be altered by suspension adjustments, the
use of spacing blocks, leaf spring shackles, torsion bar levers, or
change or modification of springs or coil spring perches. This
does not allow the use of spacers that alter suspension geometry,
such as those between the hub carrier and lower suspension arm.
Springs must be of the same type as the original (coil, leaf,
torsion bar, etc.) and except as noted herein, must use the original
spring attachment points. This permits multiple springs, as
long as they use the original mount locations. Coil spring
perches originally attached to struts or shock absorber bodies
may be changed or altered, and their position may be adjustable.
Spacers are allowed above or below the spring. Suspension
bump stops may be altered or removed.

Street Prepared - page 89

Any shock absorbers may be used. Shock absorber mounting
brackets which serve no other purpose may be altered, added or
replaced, provided that the attachment points on the body/
frame/subframe/chassis/suspension member are not altered. The
installation may incorporate an alternate upper spring perch/seat
and/or mounting block (bearing mount). The system of attachment
may be changed. The number of shock absorbers shall be
the same as Stock. No shock absorber may be capable of adjustment
while the car is in motion, unless fitted as original equipment.
MacPherson strut equipped cars may substitute struts,
and/or may use any insert. This does not allow unauthorized
changes in suspension geometry or changes in attachment
points (e.g., affecting the position of the lower ball joint or
spindle). It is intended to allow the strut length changes needed
to accommodate permitted modifications which affect ride height
and suspension travel. This allowance differs from Improved
Touring Allowance 9.1.3.D.5.b.1.

It was 10F when I just redid mine. It does not matter, but its going to take 2-3 hours to do.

Meevo

Oh haha.. I was just wondering more in terms of exposing them to salt, etc., right off the bat

Smike

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Nope, the Swifts are coated and the struts are also good to go for the winter driving.