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Old Jan 4, 2012, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by auto228
what brand of brake pads is cheap but good for a daily driving IX?

I'm thinking Hawk HPS front for $130..........
I have Hawk pads. I'm not sure which version, but i like them. I do get break dust but mostly on front driver side. I think it's because of my rotor though. :P
Old Jan 4, 2012, 10:42 PM
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Stock pads.

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Old Jan 5, 2012, 02:38 AM
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Depending on the OP's driving style, I'd suggest PF-Z as a street pad with higher performance potential. Street only, relatively mild commuter-type driving with an occasional burst of speed, Project Mu NS.
Old Jan 5, 2012, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by FJF
Depending on the OP's driving style, I'd suggest PF-Z as a street pad with higher performance potential. Street only, relatively mild commuter-type driving with an occasional burst of speed, Project Mu NS.
How do the two above compare with respect to brake dust, FJF?
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I would buy stock pads , ore Stoptech street pads , ive been using mine fore almost a Year and been driveing , pretty hard , and ive been on some trackdays and there is still a lot to go on them ,

Stoptech price are good
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Originally Posted by sparky
How do the two above compare with respect to brake dust, FJF?
The Project Mu dusted less. Not a night and day difference, though, compared to the stock pads.
Old Jan 5, 2012, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by kyoo
maybe its something else then, i get stopping power, as long as i REALLY push hard.. could be something else - either way, I think I'll try the RB ET500s this time around - supposedly better than ds2500s in every way for street/autox (not track)
Like i said, it is comparing the CT9A and the CZ4A, but it's mostly the same braking system.

I'm definitely always open to try other pads, I just want to avoid wasting money .

If I had it my way I'd have every pad option and try them all . Let me know how the RB ET500s turn out.
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Originally Posted by migs647
Like i said, it is comparing the CT9A and the CZ4A, but it's mostly the same braking system.

I'm definitely always open to try other pads, I just want to avoid wasting money .

If I had it my way I'd have every pad option and try them all . Let me know how the RB ET500s turn out.
yea i definitely will make some comment, at least in comparison to the ferodos
Old Jan 5, 2012, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by auto228
what brand of brake pads is cheap but good for a daily driving IX?

I'm thinking Hawk HPS front for $130..........
Originally Posted by Smike
Hawk HPS: 0-600F, low/no bite (glazed over on my street setup) PICS HERE
See first post in the thread. There are much better pads to get.
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Originally Posted by Smike
See first post in the thread. There are much better pads to get.
Mike,

do you still recommend the RB ET300 for street/autox, or do you think the ET500 will fit in that category also?
Old Jan 5, 2012, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by kyoo
Mike,

do you still recommend the RB ET300 for street/autox, or do you think the ET500 will fit in that category also?
For fast AX - ET500.
Mostly street - ET300.

I got to use the ET500 some here:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...-your-evo.html

After hard laps, they started to go away. But for light use (or fast AX) worked well.

I had a set of early ET500s that I did not like at all. Versions that I've driven since have been good.
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Originally Posted by Fastone_evo6
I would buy stock pads , ore Stoptech street pads , ive been using mine fore almost a Year and been driveing , pretty hard , and ive been on some trackdays and there is still a lot to go on them ,

Stoptech price are good
Yeah, I have the Stoptech Street Performance now clocking in at over 40,000 miles! They do not take more pressure than stock pads -- at least ones that you bed in well don't. They're like any, will eventually wear off the rotor material if you don't keep them regularly hot enough to transfer new material.

I didn't like the trackdays on them. I did one or two weekends on them, and while they did surprisingly well at stopping, not fading, and not wearing down (see above), the noise they generated as they got hotter and hotter simply discouraged any sort of confidence. My instructor got a kick out them. They were the "pissing" in the farting-and-pissing noises my car made every lap Loud loud squealing when pushed to be "race pads." But no fade was amazing for the price of them.
Old Jan 17, 2012, 12:08 PM
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Rear rotors

I'm looking at Tire rack and comparing these two rotors. Are the StopTech comparable to Centric; they appear to be pretty much the same.

Cryo-Stop Premium Rotor - Manufacturer Part #: 120.46065CRY

* Premium black E-coating finish to combat corrosion on the rotor hat and between the cooling vanes
* Cryogenically treated to greatly enhance durability
* Castings have important O.E. details including extractor and set screw holes
* Superior cooling fin designs
* Double disc ground finish
* 100% fully machined finish including rotor hats
* 100% inspected and mill-balanced
* Lateral runout held to 0.002" or less
* Meet or exceed rigid quality specifications, including cooling vane designs

These are the well known Centric Premium
Centric High Carbon Plain 125 Series Rotor - Manufacturer Part #: 125.46064

* Premium black E-coating finish to combat corrosion on the rotor hat and between the cooling vanes
* Center split castings for increased strength and stability
* Superior cooling fin designs
* Double disc ground finish
* 100% fully machined finish including rotor hats
* 100% inspected and mill-balanced for smooth operation regardless of speed
* Lateral run out held to 0.002” or less
* Meet or exceed rigidity quality specifications, including cooling vane designs

Centric available Cryo treated
High Carbon Plain 125 Series Cryo Treated Rotor - Manufacturer Part #: 125.46065CRY

Centric High Carbon Plain 125 Series Cryo-Treated Rotor Features:
* Premium black E-coating finish to combat corrosion on the rotor hat and between the cooling vanes
* Cryogenically treated for enhanced durability
* Center split castings for increased strength and stability
* Superior cooling fin designs
* Double disc ground finish
* 100% fully machined finish including rotor hats
* 100% inspected and mill-balanced for smooth operation regardless of speed
* Lateral run out held to 0.002” or less
* Meet or exceed rigidity quality specifications, including cooling vane designs

I do notice the model number for the StopTech are similar to the non Premium Centric.

Plain 120 Series Rotors
Manufacturer Part #: 120.46065

Not sure what they have two different models for the rear:
Special Order
Manufacturer Part #: 125.46065
Old Jan 17, 2012, 12:11 PM
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Stop tech is owned by Centric so they are very very similar if not the same.
Old Jan 17, 2012, 08:04 PM
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I've gotten about the same performance from Winhere as I did with the Centrics. The Chinese are making all of them anymore, seems to be more in the overhead of a company that's the price differential on blanks now. The black doesn't stay black btw.

(Rotors? You want rotors? I've bought two new sets with all the miles I have, plus track duty, they're wear items ultimately, and you don't want them cracking while racing, so they all get retired to DD well before anything untowards happens.)

EDIT: Call OReilly -- my Centrics were pretty cheap there, less than both Tirerack and Partsgeek, at least it was early last summer.

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