Autox don't get brakes hot enough either. The DBA rotors I'm running has heat paint markings on them and I have yet to heat the rotors hot enough to even budge the coolest heat mark. The only time I think anyone would need ti shims is for track days to help resist heat transfer, but even then, a duct system would work more efficiently.

 

If Ti shims will not hurt a street car yet help against heat transfer during track days, I'll go that route. My steel shims will be for sale as soon as I get them...BNIE

Mods, sorry for the OT.

Edit: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sa...-shims-nj.html

 

I ended up going with RacingBrake ET500's. Got a great deal on them from a member on here. I just wanted to say thanks to everybody who posted up and helped me make a decision on what pads to buy. Thanks to Smike for being a great help also and not locking my thread, I know the topic is beat to death.

Grillpt

 

 

Cant fault the carbotech pads.

I use the XP8s on the roads and on my local track, only one big braking zone.
But for other tracks I leave the XP8s on the back and use XP10s on the front

 

XP10s F&R After 1 track day, i cant say anything bad about them. Did not experience any fade.

 

Do you swap rotors when you change to the XP10s?

 

Not at first. I would change to xp 10s then leave them on for the 40 mile drive up to the track. By then they got a good work out to bed in to the rotor agan. I have DFA 4000 discs on and from new they have only been used with carbotech.

For next year though I may buy some new front rotors just for the XP10s

 

i just got some of the xp8's last night and i'll be testing them out next week at a HPDE @ VIR...i was also looking at the R.B. et800's but decided to give the carbotech's a try since there wasn't too many reviews on them!

 

My buddy has used the ET800's with great success on track. They are very loud for street driving though.

 

I have used the Bobcats as street/autox pads on my MR for 18 months. full set of DBA 4000 rotors went on at the same time. Previous pads were the Project Mu.

Compared to Stock Brembos, and the Mu's, Bobcats have better initial bite, even in cold weather. Prolonged braking even with the DBA's did show them to start to show fade. Since i did not flush the system with new 5.1 or better fluid, it may have been that. they are not intended for track use. They do not dust very much and the dust is a brown colour.

Personally I think these work very well on the evo.

 

I've got XP8s on my street car. Insane initially grip. Lots of braking power. Rediculous noise 90% of the time and SSSSOOOOOOOOMMMMMUUUUUCCCCCCHHHHHH DUST!!!. However a simple spray with a hose and 90% comes right off
If I cant get the squealing resolved they will be coming off though. It is absolutely the loudest brake noise I've ever heard.

I had ET800s before. Killed a new set in one track day. Left a coating of brake dust that would not come off. Had to use a super fine polishing compound to get it off

 

Drifto- that pretty much mirrors my experience with carbotech. they stop very well, especially initial bite, make lots of dust (although comes off VERY easy) and sometimes squeak/squeel like a pig being raped.

I've accepted the fact that performance pads are going to have some trade off, either dust, noise or chewing up rotors. The performance of the carbotechs makes the trade-offs an easy choice for me.

 

Why is that? I've ridden in a car with 12's, and I was sold on them. They didn't make a peep in the car I was in, and the bite felt like the carbon brakes on the Lambo Supeleggera.

 

I use Carbotech AX6 (autocross/street) brake pads and really like them. A big improvement over the OEM pads. Better initial bite and easier to modulate. The only downside that I see is that they tend to produce more dust than the OEM pads.