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Old May 14, 2018, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MinusPrevious
Morning Roger

This guy is noting less than 1mm of clearance on his 17x9 +22"s. That is too tight (spoke flex!)

my current set up is like that at the moment and have not had issues. Rays has removed all spec charts for the old CE28Ns. So it is difficult to confirm if they even recommended this clearance for CT9As.
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Old May 14, 2018, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MinusPrevious
Well thats a nice wheel for sure. No way to tell if the caliper clearance is proper w/out doing a test fit or previous experience. I did find a thread that seems to match your spec here: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...-calipers.html
Certainly looks like they fit, but its way too close. I think the spec is 3-4mm (.157") of clearance needed

The +22 is super tough to fit but what is helping is the 9" vs 9.5" width. Personally i feel a slight rear pull may be needed & possible rear bumper bolt relocation. You can try it w/a nice tight flat rear roll & see what you think. I would remove the rear strut & disconnect the rear sway bar & check the clearance.
I just picked up a set of TE37SL 17x9.5 +28 and they clear the calipers without any spacers. And like MinusPrevious said the 9.5 higher offset versions are "easier" to run since they sit further in the wheel well. Plus you are getting more meat under the fender. But not sure if that is an option for you since you may be buying used wheels. If you are buying new, consider the wider size to ensure the caliper clears as indicated by the spec sheets from Rays. I am not against spacers but just realize you are pushing the wheel further out thus decreasing offset.

The CE28SL does not show as clearing the caliper in 17x9.5 or 9 inch model per Rays site.

Here is a video that showcases both wheels.. 17x9 CE and 17x9.5 TE. Personally I think the TE looks better but that is subjective.

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Old May 14, 2018, 12:31 PM
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Thanks MinusPrevious and Astro Train for both of your feedback, I really appreciate it!

According to Rays website, it looks like the the TE37 Saga 17x9.5+22 will also fit the EVO VII & IX.

Do you have any pics of your new wheels Astro Train? Also what tire size are you running on those TE37SL's? Did you have to do any rear fender work or rear bumper bolt relocate?

I really like the bronze color and leaning towards the TE37 Saga in 17x9.5+22 in. But if the +28 offset on the TE37SL will fit better without any fender work, then I would just get the SL. I'm on stock Bilstein shocks and GTWORX springs.
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Old May 14, 2018, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by city
Thanks MinusPrevious and Astro Train for both of your feedback, I really appreciate it!

According to Rays website, it looks like the the TE37 Saga 17x9.5+22 will also fit the EVO VII & IX.

Do you have any pics of your new wheels Astro Train? Also what tire size are you running on those TE37SL's? Did you have to do any rear fender work or rear bumper bolt relocate?

I really like the bronze color and leaning towards the TE37 Saga in 17x9.5+22 in. But if the +28 offset on the TE37SL will fit better without any fender work, then I would just get the SL. I'm on stock Bilstein shocks and GTWORX springs.
So you know the Sagas are slightly different than the SLs as far as the lip on the wheel. The Sagas offer a bit more concave at different offsets. The SLs have the same concave in the (17x9)+22, (17x9.5)+28... likely a bit less cavy then the Sagas but the SLs have a slightly more prominent lip. That is my observation on them from seeing lots of photos of the various different concave the Sagas offers.

The +28s I ordered will be here tomorrow. I am mounting 255/40/17s Michelin Pilots the next day. I would have preferred to go with a 255/40 Federal since they run wider and are more like 265/40. 265/40s are only made by a few manufacturers so the next option are 275 but I DON'T want to raise my car from where it is now. So the Pilot Sports will be a good gauge. My rear fenders are rolled flat. Bumper bolt has not been relocated... probably will not need to be unless I up the tire size as I mentioned.

As for your being on GTX Worx Springs.. you can run either the +22 or the +28 with likely just a roll in the rear because these springs are a very mild functional drop. Some negative camber will also help. I always say go with the higher offset unless you like the Sagas better. I would stay with a 255/40 to be on the safe side.

I have not confirmed this but I believe this Evo is running 17x9 +22. So the wider +28 would be about the same since the .5 inches adds about 6-7 mm on each side He is also running a fairly wide tire.


here is a pic of that same car but appears to be running a meatier tire... probably a 275.


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Old May 17, 2018, 06:24 AM
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Roger. Per your request

Heres how we did my bumper bolt relocation: (any questions, let me know)

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^^^ awesome and thanks again Joe... this makes perfect sense. I will likely need this since I am going with the 265/40 Feddys.
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Originally Posted by jwalleg
18x9.5 +24 ce28s. What’s the most I would have to do to fit these with 255s?

Found some ce28s in 18x9.5 +28 and was wondering what would be needed without rolling as I’m afraid of cracking paint
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Originally Posted by jwalleg



Found some ce28s in 18x9.5 +28 and was wondering what would be needed without rolling as I’m afraid of cracking paint


+28 is still considered an aggressive offset which requires a rear roll & fender pull. Likely a rear bumper bolt relocation needed

I run a similar spec: 17x9.5 +30 in which I needed all the above. I am running some aggressive rubber which made the fit tougher (275/40/17)

Paint cracking can happen & just be prepared to treat it. Sand the cracked paint down & re-coat & seal
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Hi All,

I'm currently running 245/35/18 Federal RS-RR's on stock Evo X GSR wheels (18x8.5 +38) and am thinking of upgrading to 255/35/18 Toyo R888R's.

I'm lowered on Ohlins coils (at the same height as Swift springs would be) and have rolled rear fender lips (stock bumper bolts).

Tire Manufacturer spec sheets show:
1. RS-RR section width of 9.8 and tread with of 9.3 with an overall diameter of 24.7
2. R888R section width of 10.2 with a tread width of 9.6 and an overall diameter of 25
3. Delta = Section Width +0.4, Tread Width +0.3, Diameter +0.3

Does anyone have any pics and/or thoughts on real world fitment of the R888R's on my car?

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by jwalleg



Found some ce28s in 18x9.5 +28 and was wondering what would be needed without rolling as I’m afraid of cracking paint
the main advantage over the +24 is that you do not need spacers for them. The +24 and +28 feature totally different concavities on the spokes. So because the +28 are more straight they allow for alot more give on the front. The +24 you are forced to run a spacer because the concave on the wheels is much more towards the center the wheel.

But yes like Previous said. The issue fitting wheels on the 8/9 is usually the rears. So you can push the fronts a bit more than the rears. +28 has been done plenty and is very popular.

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Originally Posted by Is2scooby
Hi All,

I'm currently running 245/35/18 Federal RS-RR's on stock Evo X GSR wheels (18x8.5 +38) and am thinking of upgrading to 255/35/18 Toyo R888R's.

I'm lowered on Ohlins coils (at the same height as Swift springs would be) and have rolled rear fender lips (stock bumper bolts).

Tire Manufacturer spec sheets show:
1. RS-RR section width of 9.8 and tread with of 9.3 with an overall diameter of 24.7
2. R888R section width of 10.2 with a tread width of 9.6 and an overall diameter of 25
3. Delta = Section Width +0.4, Tread Width +0.3, Diameter +0.3

Does anyone have any pics and/or thoughts on real world fitment of the R888R's on my car?

Thanks!
Hey Rich

Used to run a similar tire on my X wheels. Ran the Toyo T1R 255/35 w/an inflated section width of 10.1". Wasnt even rolled at that time. Heres a pic from almost 10 years ago

Joe

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^^ ahem... wingless FTW.
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Yeah Roger. This was the EvO before it got track day certified
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Originally Posted by MinusPrevious
Hey Rich

Used to run a similar tire on my X wheels. Ran the Toyo T1R 255/35 w/an inflated section width of 10.1". Wasnt even rolled at that time. Heres a pic from almost 10 years ago

Joe
Thanks, Joe. Looks great! (My car is a Wicked White IX as well). I think I’ll hit Tire Rack up today. ;-)
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How about CE28SL in 17x9.5+28 will these wheels with 245/40/17 or 255/40/17 tires fit the evo without any spacers and just a rear fender roll? I know rays website says it doesn't fit evo8/9 but it should fit right?


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