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Almost certain I've found the wheels I'm going to go with just need help with the size and offset. The wheels are the new WedsSport TC105X, but sizing appears to be similar to the TC105Ns. The sizes I'm debating on 17x9.5 +32, 18x9 +32, 18x9.5 +35 or +25. I'm currently running a 255/40r 17 AD08Rs but would like to run a a tire with stock diameter as the gears are already short enough. So I was debating on going with a 265/35r 18 as it's still retains stock diameter and is wide, and a 265 in a 17 is hard to come by.
Car is an 05 VIII lowered on Hotchkis springs and stock struts for now, Eventually getting coilovers. Don't mind rolling fenders just don't really want to pull anything. Trying fit the widest tire without rubbing....
Almost certain I've found the wheels I'm going to go with just need help with the size and offset. The wheels are the new WedsSport TC105X, but sizing appears to be similar to the TC105Ns. The sizes I'm debating on 17x9.5 +32, 18x9 +32, 18x9.5 +35 or +25. I'm currently running a 255/40r 17 AD08Rs but would like to run a a tire with stock diameter as the gears are already short enough. So I was debating on going with a 265/35r 18 as it's still retains stock diameter and is wide, and a 265 in a 17 is hard to come by.
Car is an 05 VIII lowered on Hotchkis springs and stock struts for now, Eventually getting coilovers. Don't mind rolling fenders just don't really want to pull anything. Trying fit the widest tire without rubbing....
I like all the noted sizes, except for the +25. +25 in a 9.5" wide wheel is super tough to fit correctly w/out rub. Lets say you decided on the 17x9.5+32 w/a 255/40 tire. You can expect to do a tight rear fender roll at the min. Depending on the tire brand, you may be getting close to the rear bumper bolt
Just so you know, my most aggressive set-up is the following: 17x9.5 +30 w/a Federal EvO 595 tire 265/40 (runs wide 1 size). My set-up needed the full compliment of rear mods (roll, pull, bumper bolt)
@MinusPrevious
I assumed a +30 in 17in would fit the same as a +30 in 18in assuming the same size tire? For example a Volk TE-37 in 18x9.5 in +30 or +31 w/ a 265/35/18 Michelin PS4 would require little to no work in the rear and maybe a small space up front to work. So if I see a combo that works in 17in it should work in 18in assuming a similar tire size (I know actual width will vary because of manufacturer). I believe I have seen a 265 size tire in +30 work with little mods involved.
@MinusPrevious
I assumed a +30 in 17in would fit the same as a +30 in 18in assuming the same size tire? For example a Volk TE-37 in 18x9.5 in +30 or +31 w/ a 265/35/18 Michelin PS4 would require little to no work in the rear and maybe a small space up front to work. So if I see a combo that works in 17in it should work in 18in assuming a similar tire size (I know actual width will vary because of manufacturer). I believe I have seen a 265 size tire in +30 work with little mods involved.
Thanks,
Yes, the wheel profiles should be identical when comparing a 17 vs 18 in the same width & offset. Diameter, of course is diff
An 18x9.5 +30 / +31 is an aggressive wheel especailly when paired w/a 265/30. To get that spec to fit correctly, i would say the following will be needed:
Rear fender roll (full flat) & running -2.0° of camber. Check bumper bolt clearance
Rear fender roll (3/4 roll) & running -1.8° of camber. Slight rear pull & check bumper bolt clearance
As a reference, im running a 17x9.5 +30 w/a 265/40 tire & my setup needed every trick (3/4 roll, pull & bumper bolt)
Keep in mind please, that these suggestions are to get a fully cleared package w/no chance of rub. There are plenty of guys who will do a fit-up w/little to no mods & say it works w/no problems. They dont say that the rear ride height is high or it only rubs when i have rear passengers etc.
Here an example of what we are trying to achieve. Full suspension articulation w/zero rub
@MinusPrevious
Got it, So my take away is a 265/35/18 tire on a 9.5in wheel is not doable without some work required, and by this I mean more than just a roll. @kyoo noted above that his +34 is close to the suspension in the rear. The poplar offsets for 9.5in wheels I like seems to be either +35 or +30.
@MinusPrevious
Got it, So my take away is a 265/35/18 tire on a 9.5in wheel is not doable without some work required, and by this I mean more than just a roll. @kyoo noted above that his +34 is close to the suspension in the rear. The poplar offsets for 9.5in wheels I like seems to be either +35 or +30.
Dont get me wrong. I think your wheel sizes are right on the money, except for the +25
If you want true clearance w/no chance of rub, you have to do the rear work
If you want that "Stance" set up, then you can always raise ride height (w/coilovers), induce high rear cambers, use stretch tires etc (nothing wrong w/that but not too functional)
If you were to see my car, the fenders looks stock. Its only when you view from a certain angle you can def see the rear pull (it goes w/the territory)
Current pic w/a 17x9 +29 running Federal 265/40 (rears are 3/4 rolled, pulled, -1.9° camber, bumper bolt relocated )
I like all the noted sizes, except for the +25. +25 in a 9.5" wide wheel is super tough to fit correctly w/out rub. Lets say you decided on the 17x9.5+32 w/a 255/40 tire. You can expect to do a tight rear fender roll at the min. Depending on the tire brand, you may be getting close to the rear bumper bolt
Just so you know, my most aggressive set-up is the following: 17x9.5 +30 w/a Federal EvO 595 tire 265/40 (runs wide 1 size). My set-up needed the full compliment of rear mods (roll, pull, bumper bolt)
Let me know if you have any questions
I figured the +25 would be too agressive for the rear from what I've read, but figured I'd ask! I've also read that the 9.5 +35 clears the outside but rubs the inside? It seems that a 9" wheel around +30 - +35 seems to fit the best, but was wondering if that extra half an inch would be worth it. Tire wise I will be running Yokohamas, rather the AD08Rs or the new A052s. In a 17" the biggest they offer are 255/40R17, if I go 18's( wich I originally planned cause I thought all BBKs required it and seems to be more wide tire options) I'm gonna run a 265/35, I've seen it done on an 9" wide rim, but was thinking maybe it would fit better on a 9.5 and i would have room to go bigger if i ever wanted to...I know it's probably not ever gonna be needed but one can dream! Haha My 255s were a plenty when i took my car to VIR last month. But I want to buy a nice set of lightweight wheels, so I'm just trying to do it right the first and get the most out of the set up...
I figured the +25 would be too agressive for the rear from what I've read, but figured I'd ask! I've also read that the 9.5 +35 clears the outside but rubs the inside? It seems that a 9" wheel around +30 - +35 seems to fit the best, but was wondering if that extra half an inch would be worth it.
Dont think youre going to have any issues w/a +35 getting into the lower control arms. Now, if you were running a +38 w/a 9.5" wheel & a 265 tire, that is getting too close
Every 1/2" in wheel width certainly adds in grip performance. From a looks point of view, every 1/2" stretches out the tire & gives off that wide appearance
In closing, you have to get that work done to the rears
Forgot to mention, liken that screen name
Dont think youre going to have any issues w/a +35 getting into the lower control arms. Now, if you were running a +38 w/a 9.5" wheel & a 265 tire, that is getting too close
Every 1/2" in wheel width certainly adds in grip performance. From a looks point of view, every 1/2" stretches out the tire & gives off that wide appearance
In closing, you have to get that work done to the rears
Forgot to mention, liken that screen name
I was assuming it would rub from this post:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/evo-show-shine/438814-weds-tc105n-florescent-yellow-evo-8-rs-2.html
The OP stated they were running a 10mm spacer to clear the suspension.
So would you go with the 18x9.5 +35 or the 18x9 +32? I'm definitely not in the stance thing, trying to get maximum grip with least as possible or no rub.
And thanks man!! I've owned a couple DSMs before finally buying the Evo and realized what I've been missing!!
So would you go with the 18x9.5 +35 or the 18x9 +32? I'm definitely not in the stance thing, trying to get maximum grip with least as possible or no rub.
And thanks man!! I've owned a couple DSMs before finally buying the Evo and realized what I've been missing!!
He didnt write that correctly. I think he was referring to the wheel hitting the front calipers. Many wheels need a front spacer to clear the brakes. Very few have ever reported contacting the strut. Its possible to hit the lower spring perch but you would have be running a tall tire (40 series or better w/a high wheel offset i.e. +38)
Your call on the width. I run both (9" Advan & a 9.5" Rota). Whatever looks the best. Most of us like the lower offsets (i.e. +32) due to the poke. But actually the +32 & the +35 will have almost the same poke due to the 9.5" width. Heres an overlay comparison using a 255/35 tire
He didnt write that correctly. I think he was referring to the wheel hitting the front calipers. Many wheels need a front spacer to clear the brakes. Very few have ever reported contacting the strut. Its possible to hit the lower spring perch but you would have be running a tall tire (40 series or better w/a high wheel offset i.e. +38)
Your call on the width. I run both (9" Advan & a 9.5" Rota). Whatever looks the best. Most of us like the lower offsets (i.e. +32) due to the poke. But actually the +32 & the +35 will have almost the same poke due to the 9.5" width. Heres an overlay comparison using a 255/35 tire
is there anyway to picture that with the 265/35? I was just thinking the 265 might fit the 9.5 better but then again I'm running a 255 on the stock wheels so maybe I'm overthinking it!😂
is there anyway to picture that with the 265/35? I was just thinking the 265 might fit the 9.5 better but then again I'm running a 255 on the stock wheels so maybe I'm overthinking it!��
Sure, heres a 265/35 on the 9.5" and the 255 on the 9" / its obviously similar but the 265 will take more rear fender work
Last edited by MinusPrevious; Dec 21, 2018 at 05:54 AM.
Sure, heres a 265/35 on the 9.5" and the 255 on the 9" / its obviously similar but the 265 will take more rear fender work
Really doesn't look like much of a difference at all! I plan to run a 265/35, on whichever width I go with. So with all this in mind, which size would you recommend?
Really doesn't look like much of a difference at all! I plan to run a 265/35, on whichever width I go with. So with all this in mind, which size would you recommend?
Depending on how the +35 looks, i would do the 18x9.5 +35 w/the 265 tire. I like the aggressive fit-ups
Dec 19, 2018, 05:58 AM
