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Old Dec 1, 2013 | 02:01 PM
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FWIW, Herb Adams in his book Chassis Engineering gives some values with regard the impact of overall weight loss vs. rotating weight @ axle speed vs. rotating weight @ engine speed.

On a 3000# car with 428 hp, 15# of overall weight loss is equal to gaining 2.14hp = factor 1

15# of rotational weight @ axle speed is equal to 6.42hp = factor 3

15# of rotational weight @ engine speed is equal to 32.10hp = factor 15

Given that dropping flywheel weight on a street driven Evo is not such a great idea, that kind of leaves driveshaft and wheels as logical targets for improvement ...
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Old Dec 1, 2013 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by alleggerita
FWIW, Herb Adams in his book Chassis Engineering gives some values with regard the impact of overall weight loss vs. rotating weight @ axle speed vs. rotating weight @ engine speed.

On a 3000# car with 428 hp, 15# of overall weight loss is equal to gaining 2.14hp = factor 1

15# of rotational weight @ axle speed is equal to 6.42hp = factor 3

15# of rotational weight @ engine speed is equal to 32.10hp = factor 15

Given that dropping flywheel weight on a street driven Evo is not such a great idea, that kind of leaves driveshaft and wheels as logical targets for improvement ...

Great book with cool info. Didn't think too many folks knew about that book.
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Old Dec 1, 2013 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by alleggerita
FWIW, Herb Adams in his book Chassis Engineering gives some values with regard the impact of overall weight loss vs. rotating weight @ axle speed vs. rotating weight @ engine speed.

On a 3000# car with 428 hp, 15# of overall weight loss is equal to gaining 2.14hp = factor 1

15# of rotational weight @ axle speed is equal to 6.42hp = factor 3

15# of rotational weight @ engine speed is equal to 32.10hp = factor 15

Given that dropping flywheel weight on a street driven Evo is not such a great idea, that kind of leaves driveshaft and wheels as logical targets for improvement ...
The lighter wheels are covered,but the driveshaft? I think I've seen a 2 piece carbon driveshaft around. The 2piece would mean less of the need for solid motor mounts, with maybe a motor damper and slightly stiffer mounts needed?
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Old Dec 2, 2013 | 06:04 AM
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AWD has 2 piece aluminum driveshafts which are more affordable.
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Old Dec 2, 2013 | 09:26 AM
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AWD has 2 piece aluminum driveshafts which are more affordable.
AWD doesn't make them anymore.
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 12:48 PM
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I've got se37 rays Volks fitted 17x9.5 , can really tell the differance with the lighter wheels fitted just feels better all round
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 08:22 AM
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Wow, im deffinetly going to go with the stock bbs's or nto3's now thanks guys
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 12:31 PM
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i did a comparison many years ago a super lightweight 19" wheel w street tires, vs a 16" wheel with r compond tires.

on the 1/4 strip the lighter wheel/tire combo did 0.2 seconds and 1.5 mph faster.
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