Hawk Street/Race pad review?
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Hawk Street/Race pad review?
Has anyone got a chance to review the new Hawk High Performance Street/Race pads? Is so, how do they compare to the Ferodo DS2500? On paper it seems like it will compete with the DS2500, but we all know that is not always the case.
http://www.hawkperformance.com/perfo...ce-street-race
For some reason I can't find a part number from Hawk's website, but I found pads on tireracks site along with part numbers.
http://www.hawkperformance.com/perfo...ce-street-race
For some reason I can't find a part number from Hawk's website, but I found pads on tireracks site along with part numbers.
Last edited by lv05evo; Mar 2, 2015 at 07:31 PM.
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^Yep. After a track day I won't let this dust sit on my wheels for more than a day or two after a track day. And even then it can be pretty stubborn. Leave it on for very long and it will bond and corrode.
I'm using these currently on my 2001 Prelude which is my current DE/track car. On smaller tracks, they work fine. On larger tracks particularly when ambient temps are higher, I can overheat them. This car only has 196whp and weighs 2915 w/o driver.
The compound is exactly the same as a Hawk DTC-30...this is their circle track, etc. compound. Think about that...no big straights with big periods of decel from high speed. They have to work from lowish temps. The difference between a DTC-30 and a S/R is the S/R is chamfered on the sides and includes shims, all in the name of reduced noise.
I have also used these pads on my Evo 8 at the track. I can get them to be relatively quiet on the Prelude with its sliding calipers, but the fixed calipers (stock Brembos) on the Evo it's not so easy. Even with careful application of a good brake lube, it was tough to get these S/R pads to be quiet.
My experience with their performance in the Evo is that for bigger road courses, again with high decel rates...like 130mph down to about 40 mph...these pads were not very happy with me. I think for smaller courses, particularly with cooler ambient temps, they might be OK on a stockish power car with EPS tires.
Be sure to bring them up to temp gradually on track.
Edit- Just to clarify, I do like these pads. They are exactly what they claim to be- a pad that actually works at low temps, and can take a lot of heat when you push them. They do have their drawbacks though. It is impossible to make a pad that is amazing for the street- quiet, low dust, stops from cold, and then has legit competitive track performance. You can't make a football cleat that works for ballet.
I'm at the point where I don't mind swapping the "street" setup for the "track" setup, just because I want what's going to work best in either scenario. But if you do want some "compromise pads" with a bias towards track performance, this is a great choice.
DS2500 is similar but just a little better all around. I would totally choose them over the S/R if cost was not a factor. That said, when these S/Rs are done, the DS2500s are exactly what I want for the Evo. I'm not really tracking that car much these days but want something that can deal with a lot of abuse.
I'm using these currently on my 2001 Prelude which is my current DE/track car. On smaller tracks, they work fine. On larger tracks particularly when ambient temps are higher, I can overheat them. This car only has 196whp and weighs 2915 w/o driver.
The compound is exactly the same as a Hawk DTC-30...this is their circle track, etc. compound. Think about that...no big straights with big periods of decel from high speed. They have to work from lowish temps. The difference between a DTC-30 and a S/R is the S/R is chamfered on the sides and includes shims, all in the name of reduced noise.
I have also used these pads on my Evo 8 at the track. I can get them to be relatively quiet on the Prelude with its sliding calipers, but the fixed calipers (stock Brembos) on the Evo it's not so easy. Even with careful application of a good brake lube, it was tough to get these S/R pads to be quiet.
My experience with their performance in the Evo is that for bigger road courses, again with high decel rates...like 130mph down to about 40 mph...these pads were not very happy with me. I think for smaller courses, particularly with cooler ambient temps, they might be OK on a stockish power car with EPS tires.
Be sure to bring them up to temp gradually on track.
Edit- Just to clarify, I do like these pads. They are exactly what they claim to be- a pad that actually works at low temps, and can take a lot of heat when you push them. They do have their drawbacks though. It is impossible to make a pad that is amazing for the street- quiet, low dust, stops from cold, and then has legit competitive track performance. You can't make a football cleat that works for ballet.
I'm at the point where I don't mind swapping the "street" setup for the "track" setup, just because I want what's going to work best in either scenario. But if you do want some "compromise pads" with a bias towards track performance, this is a great choice.
DS2500 is similar but just a little better all around. I would totally choose them over the S/R if cost was not a factor. That said, when these S/Rs are done, the DS2500s are exactly what I want for the Evo. I'm not really tracking that car much these days but want something that can deal with a lot of abuse.
Last edited by Apex Hunter; Jun 21, 2019 at 11:37 AM.
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