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Q8_EVO Mar 8, 2010 09:48 PM

Revalving coilovers
 
hey guys, I need to revalve my KW V3. Any recommendations to who does a good job in revalving KWs and how much does it cost?

Im going to call Robi and GTWorx tomorrow, just wanted to see if i have any more options

thanks

dieselmd Mar 9, 2010 06:09 AM

Those are the 2 I would call. Honestly, no need to look elsewhere. These 2 guys are here on this forum, support our community and know our cars well. Andrew@GTWORX helped me a ton in deciding on suspension and tires. He's a wealth of knowledge. But something tells me you know this already.

chu Mar 9, 2010 06:38 AM

How about calling KW? Thought of that?

tkklemann Mar 9, 2010 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by chu (Post 8074925)
How about calling KW? Thought of that?


That seems pretty aiken to calling Microsoft because you want a custom version of windows.

Thought of that? Think that's going to happen? :dunno:

GTWORX.com Mar 9, 2010 06:58 AM

KW rebuilds, but won't revalve.

- Andrew

chu Mar 9, 2010 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by tkklemann (Post 8074961)
That seems pretty aiken to calling Microsoft because you want a custom version of windows.

Thought of that? Think that's going to happen? :dunno:

But it can't hurt to call the original manufacturer first does it? All they could say if no.

Doesn't seem like GT Worx offers it either based on Andrew's reply.

GTWORX.com Mar 9, 2010 07:49 AM

We can not revalve them at this time. :)

Q8_EVO Mar 13, 2010 11:40 PM

learnt my lesson the hard way buying used coilovers, going to talk to KW on monday and see what will they will say about this

http://i44.tinypic.com/2mqokt3.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/qzixy1.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/24v4s94.jpg




andrew have a set of ohlin DFV ready for me in a month ;)

fromWRXtoEVO Mar 16, 2010 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by Q8_EVO (Post 8074292)
hey guys, I need to revalve my KW V3. Any recommendations to who does a good job in revalving KWs and how much does it cost?

Im going to call Robi and GTWorx tomorrow, just wanted to see if i have any more options

thanks

Ali,

Let me tell you and let me tell the whole forum, KW is a joke. They charge a whole lot for a product that is not up to the standard.

Years ago(8 years ago ) my friend (evofunk)purchased a new Mini Cooper S, he then installed a set of KW V2(the v3 weren't in the market yet), the company advertized that these KW shocks/coilovers have a chemical treatment that prevents it from rusting the threads.
They even have an advertizing by a german University in which they "tested" the coilover threads against mod, salt,snow and water and the true is that the coilover rust like no other.

The reason why I am bashin this product is because you are number 3 friend that ran into serious issues with the KW. Your coilover desintegrated, my friend's KW's had to be hammered to get it adjusted and another frieend that I have had his KW reservoir blown.

This is way too much crap for soo much money that it cost. I absolutely do not recommend or endorse these KW coilovers for their false advertizing.{thumbdwn} For soo much price and advertizing these product is an under enginneered over priced substandard product.

Carlos

Q8_EVO Mar 18, 2010 03:27 PM

talked to both robi and KW..

Revalving cost:
Robi: $150/corner
KW: $125/corner

and about $200 to fix that shock

IMO... with all that crap that happened, KW is great lol

talking and getting reviews on forums is different than actually feeling how beastly your car handles on track. you gotta be in the drivers seat to appreciate them

not bashing back or anything else, but i like them and thats why Im sending them to robi to work his magic on them :)

fromWRXtoEVO Mar 18, 2010 10:58 PM

Ali, I am glad you found a "cheap" source. In my opinion and fater all the KW braggin they should absolutely pay not just for the repair but also for the inconvenience plus for the false advertizing.

When I say false advertizing is not just that the coilover didn't last as adevrtized but also by lying to you advertizing a "lifetime warranty". You shouldn't have to pay nothing, this is no less than a subquality product. When are you going to see the stock suspension breaking like that.

Any how, I am glad you are getting your car fixed.
:beer:
Carlos

dbsears Mar 19, 2010 10:27 AM

Thats not that cheap...hell Ohlins will revalve my DFV's for almost less than that. I have seen too many KW3's bend when really tracked hard...as well as their valving not be that great and twin tube construction can only go so far. Decent for a dd/weekend warrior but theirs better for the price when getting up their for motorsports imo.

GTWORX.com Mar 19, 2010 11:12 AM

I'm trying to get AST to get their 4100 dampers out for EVO.....

- andrew

donour Mar 19, 2010 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by dbsears (Post 8112537)
Thats not that cheap...hell Ohlins will revalve my DFV's for almost less than that.

But it's not that expensive either, especially if it includes dyno plots. Bilstein charges less, penske charges more.


I have seen too many KW3's bend when really tracked hard...
Me too, but v3 is a street product right? I would think it would last through speed bumps and pot holes.


twin tube construction can only go so far
How's that? It seems to me that most of the advantages of a monotube are in packaging. If you read the SAE shock handbook, it states flat out that the biggest reason to choose a monotube is when you are mounting the unit horizontally. Otherwise a twin-tube _can_ be engineered to perform well for virtually all road applications (Rally and offroading have very different requirements). Case in point, the Koni 8611.

Anyway, back to topic. :)


Decent for a dd/weekend warrior but theirs better for the price when getting up their for motorsports imo.
I'm with you there, brother. I'm firmly in the camp of you-cant-do-it-right-for cheap.

d

Bassicfun Mar 19, 2010 12:00 PM

(unrelated) I saw a few of your posts on the evoX areas, any chance Eibach would release their coilovers for the 8/9?

JRB_EVO Mar 19, 2010 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by GTWORX.com (Post 8112685)
I'm trying to get AST to get their 4100 dampers out for EVO.....

- andrew

That would be great!!!

Any idea if they are really considering it or is it more of a case of wishful thinking?

I had my friends at Turnin Concepts ask them that question months ago and their answer was No!

Q8_EVO Apr 17, 2010 02:44 PM

got them back from Robi today. Revalved and serviced

http://i43.tinypic.com/34nhyx0.jpg

might be putting them up for sale

BBS Apr 17, 2010 08:41 PM

Shouldnt your tender spring be on top of the main spring on the front?

robi Apr 18, 2010 01:36 AM

and why on earth would that make even the slightest difference?

-Peter@robispec (the guy who put those together)

BBS Apr 18, 2010 11:10 AM

Because the earth is flat? Like most consumers, you figure the way it came from the factory is the way that it should be. Thanks for the humble insight (a little sarcasm was added!)

Sil'vr-Boi6 Apr 23, 2010 06:56 PM

Nice Job
 
Very nice, {thumbup}..in the future if the c/o's ever blow again. Contact Jeff at TampaRally...you guess it in tampa fl. They do great service their as well on most c/o's and have the tools to build outside resevior on c/o's that aren't traditionally equipped with outside reseviors. Plus Suspension dyno testing.

huevosrancheros Apr 24, 2010 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by tkklemann (Post 8074961)
That seems pretty aiken to calling Microsoft because you want a custom version of windows.

Thought of that? Think that's going to happen? :dunno:

thats how billstein works. U want ur dampers revalved u give them a call{thumbup}

huevosrancheros Apr 24, 2010 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by Sil'vr-Boi6 (Post 8235000)
Very nice, {thumbup}..in the future if the c/o's ever blow again. Contact Jeff at TampaRally...you guess it in tampa fl. They do great service their as well on most c/o's and have the tools to build outside resevior on c/o's that aren't traditionally equipped with outside reseviors. Plus Suspension dyno testing.

sweet info.


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