Kinda interesting that several people seem to be waiting for Deatchwerks to release a 1000 cc/min injector. It looks like they modify a Lucas injector just like RC Engineering, so I'm wondering what's so special about Deatschwerks?

 

I would imagine because it's going to be a direct plug and play with the Evo 10, or so they say.

The current Bosch 1000's need the pigtails to work on the Evo 10

-Bryan

 

Ah right, this is in the Evo 10 forums! In that case, forget my comment about it looking like a Lucas injector. The pic of the 800 cc/min injector they are offering for the Evo 10 does not look like a Lucas. It doesn't look like anything I've seen. It lacks the long extension that I've seen on the stock Evo 10 injectors. I think the Bosch injector from Injector Dynamics also lacks an extension. I would have thought it would be necessary.

 

What extension? The actual wiring plug?

The Bosch 1000's that ID sell bolt right in and look like stock once installed. The actual plug part is different and needs a wiring pigtail for each injector.

 

There is a picture in the FSM of a stock injector showing a long extension tube coming off the bottom of the injector where the fuel comes out.

Here's a pic of a set of stock injectors that someone has for sale. BTW, after seeing this pic, its pretty clear that the stock injectors are Bosch units. I just read that the Deatschwerks are Denso units.

 

Ah yes, the bosch 1000's do not have that. I had the same concern but T1R said they work fine and they did work just fine.

 

The stock injectors are Bosch EV14's with a Denso connector.

In the stock configuration, they have a pretty wide spray pattern so the extension on the tip is necessary to prevent 'wall wetting' of the runner.

The ID1000's have a 5 deg included spray angle and a very low velocity discharge. The atomization is great and the narrow spray angle will work especially well in this situation. An injector with a wide spray angle and without a long tip like the stock ones probably won't be ideal for this application.

 

I'm running the DW800s with a Blouch Dom 2.0 & Cosworth cams. When I crank my boost up to 1.9bars (27.5 psi) @ 7200 RPM 4th gear, the IDC is right around 90%. If you wanna stay below 90% with a GT3076, I would suggest using 1000cc or larger injectors.

 

Hi Sic, may I know how did you calculate the IDC?

 

ECUTek DeltaDash & recently been testing out Evoscan. In Evoscan you'll need to use this parameter that WARMnSCSI posted:
You'll also need to log Injector Pulse Width on CAN 8-1 in order for it to work.

I'm not 100% sure if the numbers shown in Evoscan are correct but it seems to be really close to what I saw on DeltaDash.

 

nevermind

 

That's what I was worried about, I think 1000 cc is what I am going to hold out for then. :P

 

Alright... I only have PCMScan right now. Havent purchased evoscan yet. Thanks!!

 

Funny, my understanding was the DW takes OEM injectors and modify them! So the DW 800 injectors are not the mitsu OEM modify to flow more???

 

This sounds like the way to go!

To the OP, how much boost do you plan on running using E-85 and 1000cc injectors?

Thanks,

Michael