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Old Jan 21, 2011, 09:26 PM
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Can I log correct MAP at high load?

I'm sorry if this is a faq.

I'm just struggling to eliminate P1235 during WOT and adjust the boost level. I wish to log the MAP at high load level, but couldn't find it.

First I logged mode23 'MAP' by evoscan, but it was a byte value(It can handle from 0 to 255). And the formula was * 0.49, maximum was 124.95kPa around load 120, boost level 0.2bar.
(Though I don't know why the default range set 0-126??, I changed it to 0-255. Drawing some plots, It seems correct but stil no useful.)

Then, I logged by pcmscan, but it was a byte value, too. But the maximum value was extended to 255kPa around load 245, boost level 1.5bar. I'm disappointed.

Can I log the MAP at more high load and boost level? Anyone found another mode23 address or any way? (JDM 52360018)

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P1235 is Mass airflow sensor plausibility

You need to disable it.


I don't know what "MAP" is logging. Are you talking about Boost pressure?
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Hello Golden,

By the word 'MAP', I mean the Manifold Absolute air Pressure.

You are right. By disabling P1235, we can eliminate this MIL. But, I want not to turn the safety system off. Instead of it, I want to analyze the MAP and MAF items in my logs to eliminate P1235.

Though evoscan has the log item MAP, but it cannot go above 124.95.

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P1235 is Mass airflow sensor plausibility

You need to disable it.

I don't know what "MAP" is logging. Are you talking about Boost pressure?
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What address are you logging? Sounds like you need a 2 byte value. You are logging 1 byte, right?
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Golden,

Yes, right. I'm logging CAN6-0, don't know 2 byte MAP address.

Was it founded?

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What address are you logging? Sounds like you need a 2 byte value. You are logging 1 byte, right?
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What ROM ID are you running? I can get you the Mode 23 "Boost / PSIG" address.

We measure boost by taking the MAP reading and subtracting atmospheric pressure.

Example: MAP reads 39 psi. Barometer is at 14.5 (roughly sea level). Boost = 39 - 14.5 = 24.5 psi.
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Golden,

>What ROM ID are you running? I can get you the Mode 23 "Boost / PSIG" address.
52360018, thank you.

>We measure boost by taking the MAP reading and subtracting atmospheric pressure.
I understood! You mean we can read MAP value from the mode23 "Boost / PSIG" address. That's a great news and what a fool I am.


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What ROM ID are you running? I can get you the Mode 23 "Boost / PSIG" address.

We measure boost by taking the MAP reading and subtracting atmospheric pressure.

Example: MAP reads 39 psi. Barometer is at 14.5 (roughly sea level). Boost = 39 - 14.5 = 24.5 psi.
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Originally Posted by crimson red
Hello Golden,

By the word 'MAP', I mean the Manifold Absolute air Pressure.

You are right. By disabling P1235, we can eliminate this MIL. But, I want not to turn the safety system off. Instead of it, I want to analyze the MAP and MAF items in my logs to eliminate P1235.

Though evoscan has the log item MAP, but it cannot go above 124.95.
Raising your aiflow check table values will eliminate the 1235. If you raise it in an amount relative to your power/torque increase you should be good. 30% around peak torque should be about right.

Disabling it is easier.
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Hello kozmic27,

>Raising your aiflow check table values will eliminate the 1235. If you raise it in an amount relative to your power/torque increase you should be good. 30% around peak torque should be about right.

Thank you for your detailed instructions.

I'm going to edit the airflow/torque check tables(around P1235 occurred area), and run on the next Sunday.

FYI:
That day, During WOT from 2500 rpm, P1235 occurred(red arrow) close to 3000 rpm.
Since I logged 1-byte MAP, the values kept 124.95(maximum). So I want to make sure whether the MAP meter had relationship to the error.




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Raising your aiflow check table values will eliminate the 1235. If you raise it in an amount relative to your power/torque increase you should be good. 30% around peak torque should be about right.

Disabling it is easier.
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disable it..

its not worth the hassle of trying to get it right
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Originally Posted by tephra
disable it..

its not worth the hassle of trying to get it right
but its not that hard!
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its not that hard to get it right, but then the weather changes or whatever and it pops up..
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Try these values out for a start. These worked really well on my MR when it was stock turbo with full bolt ons and a straight pipe with no cat.
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koz ... my eyes are super blurrrred ~~~~~ mind sending me a sample copy as reference ? my mini tuning lappy hdd freaking krashed on me ! thx hope u still have ma email add
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tephra,

No temperature compensations for the Airflow/Torque check tables?

Originally Posted by tephra
its not that hard to get it right, but then the weather changes or whatever and it pops up..

kozmic27,

Thank you for your sample pic. It helps me to edit these tables.

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