**** like this happens when you modify your car. The problem is that there is only so much space to design the runners around. Thats probably the furthest away from the plug they could have designed it without compromising runner size/bend.

A small custom heat shield from ETS would have been nice but common sense to know that plastic plug would have melted would have been better.

I had an aftermarket manifold melt a wire going to my AC compressor but I took responsibility for not protecting it. Its not like they could have designed the manifold to shift it 5 inches over to the right.

 

Maybe you should contact them directly before coming on evom talking **** ..

Im sure they would work with you .. i never seen a problem not resolved with them ..

If it was me , and you came on here and posting junk before contacing me .. i would tell you to go screw your self ... really unprofessional ..

 

Looking at the picture it appears that the engine hoist bracket bolt is right next to the plastic plug. Maybe a small aluminum heat shield anchored there would be a good solution as well although that DEI cooltape seems to have worked fine for me so far. I sent a PM to ETS with these suggestions so we'll see where they go with it.

 

My prediction would be that someone will produce pretty aftermarket valve covers. If they come in a nice polished fashion then I'd gladly buy one for my `08.

 

Hmm I was going to get this. Maybe not.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong. This issue would be the same for any tubular manifold.

Or does the ETS rout closer by the sensor?

 

I don't see the edited/current state as vendor bashing, but more of a concern that the OP would like to see addressed. I did slightly edit the title.

I have seen nothing but good customer service out of ETS, so I am confident they will weigh in when they are back in the office (if they are not on holiday tomorrow like many are).

As for now, the thread is OK to stay open.

 

As cramped as the turbo and mani are on the X it would be common sense to realize that before install a tubular mani you would need to protect surrounding parts from excessive heat.

 

+1. Should of had a heat shield or something. Your fault for installing it and not thinking of that.

 

I know nothing of headers for an X, but the issue being universal seems to be implied by this thread. Even if it is routed strangely, it was not done so for no reason.

He should not have to pay for a new one, though he could. The point of my statement was that he apparently has access to one of the best tuners in all the land and yet went to ETS for a manifold. In addition, he is posting his rant here instead of a simple call to said tuner who would have said "heat wrap" and that would have been that. I find it very unlikely ETS or any other moderately respected part manufacturer on this forum would produce a part without enough "thought". It is a performance piece not intended to be a stock replacement but an upgrade. Should there be an accompanying warning about melting that plug with every aftermarket manifold header? Yes I would think that's not a lot to ask, but the consumer still has some responsibility to be an informed buyer. This is hardly a big deal as performance pieces go, you can easily fix this. As to your lack of HP gain, anyone on this thread who has any general knowledge of an Evo would tell you a tubular header is worthless for gains unless you are flowing a massive amount of air, ie a big turbo. I would like to see how ETS resolves this as it has now been forced to be a public issue. As such, keep it clean!

EDIT: Thank you OP for editing the thread, it will ultimately work in your favor to get this resolved!

 

The longer this thread is up the more of this will happen^^^^ to bad it's a holiday weekend ETS could loss some business on this one without a chance to respond!

 

I was pretty set on buying this since the only other one I know of is the JUN one which costs 2x as much. But if there aren't any real gains and it melts stuff it's probably not worth $900. After reading through it sounds like people aren't even sure if wrapping it will suffice.

 

Full Race had a manifold out long before I heard of the ETS. Jun is baller, of course. These manifolds won't do anything for you on a stock turbo. This is something that you install when you upgrade the turbo.

I just got my Full Race back from being ceramic coated at GrimmSpeed--it is going in whenever my BB-X arrives. The Full Race is a couple mm thinner but I doubt that'll matter with the temps we're talking about.

If a bit of cool tape or wrapping it in addition to ceramic coating is the answer then I will. Doing all of those things costs a little more money but I'm sure most of you are like me--if you're going to mod something then you want to do it right.

 

Yeah, I'm upgrading my turbo soon too. Possibly the same one as you got.

The Full Race one looks good too. How much does ceramic coating cost? and the titanium wrap?

 

I paid $100 for the coating. The DEI wrap is selling for about $1/ft online + shipping (you'll also need some of those metal straps to secure each end). I'm not sure how many feet it'd take but the manifolds aren't all that big.

If your only concern is heat then it's obviously cheaper to wrap it. I don't want it to rust so the coating is probably still worth it to me.