my car isn't here so i can't go look but does this same problem effect evo VIII/IX? i just recieved my ets forward facing manifold.

 

Obviously, no.
Completely different engine, different sensor locations, different manifold, nothing the same under the hood.

 

If "Forced Fed" has successfully installed several of these Tubular ETS Exhaust Manifolds on other cars in their area then the tune on the Op's X could be an issue. With the 91 Octane Gas in Cali. the timing on the tune has to be retarded compared to 93 Octane Gas available in NC. This retarded timing can heat the Exhaust Manifold up higher, depending on the tune, and could be the reason for the higher Exhaust Manifold temperatures, that the OP's X is experiencing, and the Plastic Connector melting.

Just a thought.

Bob -

 

We honestly havent had these kind of problems on any of the cars we have installed them on. I will do my best to work on a solution for the OP. We stand behind our customers and products and we want to resolve any problems our customers have.

 

^^ great service to the OP, you'll get your problem fixed in no time sure of that...ETS has good customer service..it just so happens your case happened in a long weekend...

 

Considering you guys have nothing to do with the production of this manifold these words mean a lot considering I was expecting you to state what I just mentioned

Bump for Force-Fed

 

Good job force-fed

OP also good job realizing that you posted when u were a little heated and said some things you didnt mean to.

I think it would be a good idea, like others have said as well is to throw a small piece of paper with a warning on it that the runner closest to the plug will melt the plug. Or better yet throw a small section of heat wrap in there to wrap that one runner, or a piece of heat tape to cover that plug.

 

Hey Guys,

Sorry it was a long weekend. I'm reading this post right now. I will send the OP a PM in just a few minutes.

Thanks!

Michael

 

Thats no good

 

We're not deleting the thread.
The early stuff was edited, and there is a lot of info in here for the community.

 

PM Sent to OP.

We look at two main things when building this manifold. The first being the turbo outlet pipe silicone. If the runners are too close to the silicone coupler we could have a potential fire hazard. The next being the sensor location. The manifold looks to be a decent distance away from the sensor, but going forward we are going to start including a Heat Shield with each manifold.

We are currently working with the OP to build a heat shield for his vehicle and we plan to build all new manifolds with a heat shield.

Each manifold is checked on a mock up motor and jig to insure fitment.

On another note, this is why we build our ETS Top Mount Turbo Kit. You can imagine what happens when you run an after market bottom mount turbo that generates more heat. With a top mount turbo all the heat from the runners is directed towards the block instead of all the sensors located on the top of the motor.

If anyone has questions regarding our products, let me know!

Thanks,

Michael

 

Michael,

Thank you for your immediate response, and I apologize first hand if you actually read my first OP, as I was very frustrated at that moment (My Dom 2 took a dump, and I had just gotten it back from Blouch, and to find this happening kinda of sent me over the edge). In terms of the distance between runner 1 and the clip itself its tough to be perfect on the measurement. I used a Quarter (for reference) as well as tape measure to show you physically the distance from different positions. Now granted the clip itself is melted it is not in its original form so it will vary if you decide to mass produce these for the EVO X manifolds.

Once again, I want to apologize for being out of line and going straight to bash mode...I hate it when people do it in my business before allowing me a chance to rectify the issue. Im really hoping that a heat shield will solve the problem. Looks are not of the issue at this point, more functionality would be best (obviously).

Best Regards,
HR2L

Here are some pics: Let me know if there is anything else you need.

 

Thanks for the pictures. We will get a heat shield produced and sent out to you tomorrow.

This is the first thing I thought of when I read the turbo went bad twice now. I had a similar problem with one of my 1G's. Regardless, we are going to build a heat shield for the sensor. The other side of the motor has a factory heat shield.

Thanks!

Michael

 

Like the rest of the EVOM community has said, first class service and response. Thank you for addressing this issue head on ETS crew and Michael. It was poor judgement of mine to jump to conclusions and claim that the mani is faulty. It is a very nice looking piece that needs a bit of tweaking to get it to operate effectively and safely.

Once again, hats of to the whole crew down at ETS for grabbing the bull by the horns. I will take plenty of pics of the created heat shield and post them in this thread for reference.

 

Took Hiboost's advice and wrapped the sensor with some DEI Cool Tape. Hope this will alleviate the "melting issue" until ETS sends out the heat shield. Wen't a little crazy, but thought id share!