Can't decide which route to go
Can't decide which route to go
I'm losing sleep over which route to go 
Been a while since I've done some modding and I have this itch I cant get rid of to go big. Over the past couple of weeks I've come up with different upgrade paths, tell me what you think. I guess the main goal is an autox beast with top end potential, oh and the car is no longer a DD
Regardless of which turbo I choose, I do plan on purchasing an ETS 4" fmic, Cobb AP, and retune by HB Speed. I guess the biggest issue is the money, I can't afford everything at once. So I want to plan accordingly.
option 1
E85 Conversion and keep stock turbo (I live about 1 mile away from 1 of 4 e85 stations in socal. But the car sits at my parents house in Orange County and I would have to transport fuel from LA to OC, which is sort of unpractical)
option 2
Devils Own Meth kit, injectors, fuel pump all at once
option 3
FP Green, 800cc injectors, fuel pump
option 4
FP red, 1000cc injectors, fuel pump
Obviously options 3 and option 4 are more expensive so I would need to have the supporting mods done first like the fmic, cobb AP, and retune. So I would probably have to wait another 2 or 3 before upgrading turbos.

Been a while since I've done some modding and I have this itch I cant get rid of to go big. Over the past couple of weeks I've come up with different upgrade paths, tell me what you think. I guess the main goal is an autox beast with top end potential, oh and the car is no longer a DD
Regardless of which turbo I choose, I do plan on purchasing an ETS 4" fmic, Cobb AP, and retune by HB Speed. I guess the biggest issue is the money, I can't afford everything at once. So I want to plan accordingly.
option 1
E85 Conversion and keep stock turbo (I live about 1 mile away from 1 of 4 e85 stations in socal. But the car sits at my parents house in Orange County and I would have to transport fuel from LA to OC, which is sort of unpractical)
option 2
Devils Own Meth kit, injectors, fuel pump all at once
option 3
FP Green, 800cc injectors, fuel pump
option 4
FP red, 1000cc injectors, fuel pump
Obviously options 3 and option 4 are more expensive so I would need to have the supporting mods done first like the fmic, cobb AP, and retune. So I would probably have to wait another 2 or 3 before upgrading turbos.
Last edited by DirtyCookieX; Mar 8, 2010 at 08:51 PM.
you will be disappointed with the outcome of a bigger turbo if you dont have meth or e85 in cali, but since you want top end power I would say option 4. Just prepare yourself for some horrible turbo lag
Option 1...then option 4. The red's lag isn't bad. I spool as fast as the stock turbo with pump gas and stock tune. It's worth the little extra lag. .
E85 is win, once you experience it you won't go back. Worth the extra trip especially if it isn't your daily car.
E85 is win, once you experience it you won't go back. Worth the extra trip especially if it isn't your daily car.
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For a pure auto-x car, I think the stock turbo is the best option; you want max response and max 'area under the curve'. A relatively big/laggy turbo will hurt you in auto-x.
In this situation, you'll need to build everything around the stock turbo to maximize the power output: tubular exhaust manifold (Full-Race, etc), exhaust elbow/downpipe (AMS widemouth, etc), high flow cat (not sure you can run a test pipe at auto-x events, check with the rules), a big, free flowing exhaust.
All of these mods will maximize spool-up and transient response. Cams will improve top-end, but might hurt mid-range a tad. I think a drop-in air filter will be adaquate, or something like the AEM intake.
Also, gut out as much weight as you can as the rules allow.
Edit: just noticed you already have some of these parts. So add in the Full-Race mani. Get some race wheels/tires. Race tires make a HUGE difference in times.
I'd wouldn't worry about more power for at least a season. Run the car as it is this season to see how it goes.
In this situation, you'll need to build everything around the stock turbo to maximize the power output: tubular exhaust manifold (Full-Race, etc), exhaust elbow/downpipe (AMS widemouth, etc), high flow cat (not sure you can run a test pipe at auto-x events, check with the rules), a big, free flowing exhaust.
All of these mods will maximize spool-up and transient response. Cams will improve top-end, but might hurt mid-range a tad. I think a drop-in air filter will be adaquate, or something like the AEM intake.
Also, gut out as much weight as you can as the rules allow.
Edit: just noticed you already have some of these parts. So add in the Full-Race mani. Get some race wheels/tires. Race tires make a HUGE difference in times.
I'd wouldn't worry about more power for at least a season. Run the car as it is this season to see how it goes.
Last edited by spdracerut; Mar 9, 2010 at 09:17 AM.
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Well boys and girls, I just bit the bullet and set up an appointment for april 9th @ HB speezy. Looks like I'll be going with option #1 for now
Stayed tuned for results....
Stayed tuned for results....
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anybody have an idea how many gallons these containers hold?
anybody have an idea how many gallons these containers hold?




