FMIC Questions
It is not a Garrett core (which is a good thing). The quality of the core manufacturer they use is actually superior to Garrett. Garrett does not make a intercooler properly sized for the Evo X front bumper opening. You can go with their 18" wide core like Buschur uses, but that's 2" of frontal surface area you are not taking advantage of (stock opening is 20" wide).
what makes it better than garrett ? Why are so many companies using the garrett cores then ? I am upgrading my intercooler again soon and your post caught my eye. Everyone I talk to seems to have so many opinions on cores and what is good and not good. Why so many different types of cores ?
I think there are only two companies using Garrett cores for the X; Buschur and someone else that's escaping my memory right now. ETS, AMS, AGP, Perrin, etc. all use other manufacturers.
There are only two different types of cores: tube & fin (stock) and bar & plate (most aftermarket). Like anything else in life, there are plenty of manufacturers that are all basically doing the same thing, and sometimes just rebranding others as their own.
There are only two different types of cores: tube & fin (stock) and bar & plate (most aftermarket). Like anything else in life, there are plenty of manufacturers that are all basically doing the same thing, and sometimes just rebranding others as their own.
yes I'm thinking about it, my setup is basically brand new as I'm in the process of completing my AGP 6466 2.4L build. I'd like to get the best setup for it if it's worth changing especially as it's easy to change it right now.
[QUOTE=Englando;11019973]Or is it best to stick to the 2.5" up top?[/QUOTE
I am not going to get into the physics of it but look at it like this
Depends on your intercooler inlet and outlet size. If you have an intercooler with a 2.5 inlet and outlet no matter how big the UICP or LICP is it will still only move a specific volume of air.
If you have a intercooler with inlet and outlet that is 3 inch then YES a 3 inch UICP or LICP will make a difference.
It does not matter how hard or how much boost you have forced into the intercooler the volume of air going in will always remain the same and is determined by the inlet and outlet size.
HOWEVER the speed at which the air is moved through the intercooler is determined by the type of core and how the fins are designed or shaped. If you have a quality core the air flow will actually slow down a slight amount but this is not by any means a bad thing. A quality core that slows the air down gives it time to cool before making it to where it needs to be.
As always it all comes down to power numbers and what you want. If you like a 3 inch pipe then so be it. If you want 2.5 and reducers so forth and so on it does not matter.
In the end what matters is that you get the performance and the look you want.
I personally have had 3 inch pipe as well as 2.5 both on my car and my numbers never changed so I just went back to 2.5 because it fits better for me.
Hope this helps and gives you some insight and might save ya some money in the long run
I am not going to get into the physics of it but look at it like this
Depends on your intercooler inlet and outlet size. If you have an intercooler with a 2.5 inlet and outlet no matter how big the UICP or LICP is it will still only move a specific volume of air.
If you have a intercooler with inlet and outlet that is 3 inch then YES a 3 inch UICP or LICP will make a difference.
It does not matter how hard or how much boost you have forced into the intercooler the volume of air going in will always remain the same and is determined by the inlet and outlet size.
HOWEVER the speed at which the air is moved through the intercooler is determined by the type of core and how the fins are designed or shaped. If you have a quality core the air flow will actually slow down a slight amount but this is not by any means a bad thing. A quality core that slows the air down gives it time to cool before making it to where it needs to be.
As always it all comes down to power numbers and what you want. If you like a 3 inch pipe then so be it. If you want 2.5 and reducers so forth and so on it does not matter.
In the end what matters is that you get the performance and the look you want.
I personally have had 3 inch pipe as well as 2.5 both on my car and my numbers never changed so I just went back to 2.5 because it fits better for me.
Hope this helps and gives you some insight and might save ya some money in the long run
thanks for the info!
I just want the best setup for my build, even if I need to change ic pipes and fmic.
Hearing now that the AGP FMIC is pretty much best you can get and also having the 3" inlet and outlet...I thought about changing it up before I finish the build and have everything back on ready to go.
I should be pushing some good high numbers with my built motor and 6466 strapped to it so I wanted to see if it would be worth the change. I could see on a stock frame turbo and stock block the change may not yield much difference but I would think it would on a big build and could be beneficial in more ways than one.
I just want the best setup for my build, even if I need to change ic pipes and fmic.
Hearing now that the AGP FMIC is pretty much best you can get and also having the 3" inlet and outlet...I thought about changing it up before I finish the build and have everything back on ready to go.
I should be pushing some good high numbers with my built motor and 6466 strapped to it so I wanted to see if it would be worth the change. I could see on a stock frame turbo and stock block the change may not yield much difference but I would think it would on a big build and could be beneficial in more ways than one.
My 2nd favorite Evo X intercooler is on sale now too: http://perrinperformance.com/i-13324...for-evo-x.html
I've installed this one before too and fitment was also very good. I had the Perrin FMIC on my IX and it performed incredibly well.
I've installed this one before too and fitment was also very good. I had the Perrin FMIC on my IX and it performed incredibly well.
UPDATE:
I installed the AGP 3.5" intercooler this past weekend and also the AGP UICP. Still running the stock LICP. I have to say...WOW what a difference. I know the cooler weather in Florida is playing a big roll in the way the car feels, but I really fell a noticeable difference in throttle/boost response. I think this is mostly coming from the UICP, not the intercooler. I dont know if I will notice much from the intercooler until next summer. Anyhow, the intercooler was a TIGHT squeeze and was even making contact with the hood latch bracket. I will keep an eye on this...I may have to "Modify" the lower intercooler bracket that is required on the 2010+

I installed the AGP 3.5" intercooler this past weekend and also the AGP UICP. Still running the stock LICP. I have to say...WOW what a difference. I know the cooler weather in Florida is playing a big roll in the way the car feels, but I really fell a noticeable difference in throttle/boost response. I think this is mostly coming from the UICP, not the intercooler. I dont know if I will notice much from the intercooler until next summer. Anyhow, the intercooler was a TIGHT squeeze and was even making contact with the hood latch bracket. I will keep an eye on this...I may have to "Modify" the lower intercooler bracket that is required on the 2010+



