badreligi0n

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Howdy everyone!


As the title states, I've had a new 2.2L Engine that was installed by a shop then (VERY LONG STORY) I got it back. After touching up some unfinished details, I crank it over and I'm getting everything but spark!


Now I've tested my coil packs (getting 12v and good ground but no pulse), injectors (check out good), Crank Angle Sensor (5v feedback and getting rpm on log when cranking). I re-checked to see that the cam timing was lined up and not loose. I've tested with different ECU's and different tunes.


I've done a bunch of little other test, but not worth mentioning. Nevertheless this issue is driving me bonkers and I figured I would reach out to the community to see if anyone had any other advice?! (I've tried searching the forums too, either someone had this problem and never posted the answer on their forum or the member was driving one day and it stopped working the next day (usually something breaks))

splattj

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Crank trigger wheel installed correctly / correct trigger wheel used? Could be that you CAS is getting voltage but not the correct timing. Did the builder use the correct crankshaft for your 2.2L build?

Otherwise you've thought of pretty much everything I've got.

badreligi0n

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@Splattj - I know the right crankshaft was used for the build, I was thinking it might be the trigger wheel was installed wrong?, but I was trying to solve all other potential problems before having to pull the block again :[!

badreligi0n

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*Update* I bought a new Crank Angle Sensor and no luck, still would just turn over for days, but it is not getting spark

►EvolutionX◄

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My money is on wiring / ecu issue. I wouldn't pull the motor back out? Clearly no mechanical issue as it cranks and turns over fine. Either signal not getting to computer for timing or signal not getting from ecu to coil packs to fire. Test both wires.

badreligi0n

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@Evo X, I hear ya. But I do have 2 Ecu's and tried various tunes and that didnt help. In addition, i have 2 wiring harness's and changing it out didnt work. Im guessing the Jack-wagons that re-put my car together didnt time it properly with the crank and cams

badreligi0n

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*update* I have re-done the timing and even installed a new timing chain and still no luck.

xBoostx

You need to put the crank at TDC and check the reluctor wheel position vs another Evo and make sure it matches.

Also you need to check cam sensors to see if they are working and getting signal.

Epyon

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Have you done the simple things first? Like checking resistance in the plug wires? Making sure the plugs are actually getting power during cranking?

badreligi0n

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@xBoostx - All sensors are receiving signals and are new, though I don't know what you mean about the reluctor wheel position


@Epyon - All the spark plugs are getting power and have a good ground during crank, just no pulse

Epyon

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If the spark plugs get power, and they're connected to ground then there is no reason they wouldn't be sparking.

So your issues come to are they actually getting power to create a spark, and is the engine properly grounded for the spark's ground to get back to the battery.

LetsGetThisDone

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The coils get three wires. Supply, ground, trigger. He is saying the coils have supply and ground, but they are not being triggered.


OP, have you used a NOID light to see if the injectors are firing? If you're not firing the injectors or coils, there is a crank sensor signal issue.

tephra

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Pull the crank sensor and count the teeth on the ring.

I know of at least 2 evox's that had a 4b1 crank ring installed..

tephra

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*** == Project Lancer .Net

Argh so annoying.. stupid forum filter


Check the image comparison out.. same number of teeth but 180degrees opposed..

LetsGetThisDone

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http://project-lancer.net/forums/top...nkshaft-issue/

Here is a link to the thread Tephra is talking about. Copy and and paste into your address bar, then remove the hyphon from between project and lancer...