Napalm_Enema

Get a 14 you will have a hard time finding a seat especially just one.

donny_utah

I'd say If you're shopping new for new, and even if you aren't, test drive both. Bring a mechanic friend with you.

ChipperEvo

iTrader: (3)

I bought my Evo when I was still a bachelor with full intention of building it for 600+ HP.

Now that I'm married and bought a house, those dreams are long gone and it's my daily now.

Do I wish it had a 6th gear? sure. Is it absolutely necessary? nope.

Do I wish I bought a STi over the Evo? Hells to the no.

seeuarndjimmy

bought a home and still have your evo. That's all you need

MR15

Evo - better looks, handling, engine, fewer of them on the road

STI - more functional trunk

Aidanlee1

I have owned a 08 Subaru sti. I have owned a 2012 gsr and a 08 gsr also! The STI i personally believe is a better car for daily driving. It definitely had a lot more low end power and better for traffic and ect, but an STI is like 15k to make 400whp correctly and they blow up. The EVO looks way better, it is just as efficient, it may have a tad bit more lag, but the power band is incredible and just keeps pulling and pulling.

DeweyD

Funny enough what you are referring to is "jerk" in physics. That is the rate of change of acceleration. Acceleration can be meaures in m/s^2 and jerk is m/s^3. If you were looking at a torque plot, the height for the curve would determine acceleration. How quickly the curve slopes upward would represent the jerk.

I think large increases in rates of acceleration definitely give the impression of speed, even if ultimately you don't actually accelerate that quickly. Even an electric golf cart feels quick for a split second lol.

The Evo and STi both display this behavior because compared to most modern cars they have a large amount of turbo lag. This gives you the sudden woosh feeling that wears off pretty quickly.

Your brain adjusts pretty quickly to constant acceleration. That's why I think linear power band cars can feel underwhelming in comparison.

As to which is better at producing jerk I'm not 100% sure. My guess is the STi but look at some stock torque plots and see who's graph has the larger sudden increase in torque.

Shifting to get the RPMs just below spool up will probably produce the woosh sensation you are after. Down shifting to 5,000rpms in second gear doesn't seem as fast because you are missing out on that spoolup sensation.

kyoo

iTrader: (29)

stis always felt underwhelming to me acceleration-wise, which tells me by butt-dyno that evos probably have more jerk, though i guess i could be wrong

jlcann1

Had both and prefer the Evo

AWD Problems

I owned both and let me tell you, when you mod an STI reliability goes out the window, pistons are like glass and tend to go out even on stock tunes. Got an evo with 140k miles and its beat on alot still runs strong.
Not only that aftermarket parts are rediculously expensive for an STI compared to an evo.

six40

Update:


Same dude I mentioned, just grenaded his stock EJ257 in his mild bolt on STi with maybe 70k miles. We're talking full exhaust and an intake.

Midnightblue

I have driven both in stock trim and with exhaust/ testpipe and loved both just about equally only to an extent. The subie has been aroundddddd for a long while and its a tried and true car but it hasnt really changed much throughout the years. I am pretty sure some parts from an 01 and a 16 are pretty interchangeable. That can be both good and bad. I mean aftermarket support is phenomenal there is a ton of parts.

Then you come to an evo. 4G63 up until the 4B11T in the x. They changed things up and when they did in my opinion the X Turned out to be a wonderful change. Yes curb weight is 3500 lbs give or take, and the subie makes a bit more power but it will not walk away from an x stock to stock. Either will and RS. There are peeps who dislike the 5 speed but I personally love the way the car is just in range of boost. Yes of course there is some lag but its not that much and thats the best part of it. The car just feels raw... its the type of feedback that a GTR should have and give the driver. Its a true drivers car and the traction control is not too intrusive even if left on. Turning into turns feels precise, as if the car is edging you to give it more in a turn. It almost begs you to keep the throttle pinned and to drive harder. My butt dyno loves the car and thats why I bought it.

I have owned mine for about 1.5 months now and yes its got a “stiff” ride but first of all its not a luxury car, amost all the youtube tests have used the mr with the 6spd as a comparison, in that case it isnt a very good comparison and the drivers opinions are usually biased or paid for. The car really just feels planted more than anything else. Even though it may have a “stiff” suspension its just smooth. ONLY downfall is its a bit noisy. If you purchase dont get a 15 the recaros were yanked out and those seats are comfortable. Something you wont get in a STI LOL.

It does tend to run out of gears a bit quickly if you on the throttle but that is what makes it fun.

jdpatel738

I own Evo X GSR. I drove my buddy's STI stick shift once. To be honest it "felt" lot similar to my evo power wise, but I felt evo just has that kick that i couldn't feel in STI. Again i only drove STI once so not sure i can help much. Also on different topic he had issues with overheating on track.