Ohlins Road and Track or KW V3
#16
thanks guys. I was really confused by this high rates on street roads DD. I am usually running aroun 8 9K on tarmac with my rally car on the Reigers for racing.
I actually don't mind pushy car since its not for race at all. My tires will give up faster then the understeer would really shine lol.
Anyhow I asked them about pricing and other question what you guys mentioned. When I am back to the states I will def . get the ohlins and get rid of the springs finally.
Although I have to say I am still on the oem suspension with Eibach Pro kit which was nice with me in the last 40K miles, on these NYC etc roads and some track days
I actually don't mind pushy car since its not for race at all. My tires will give up faster then the understeer would really shine lol.
Anyhow I asked them about pricing and other question what you guys mentioned. When I am back to the states I will def . get the ohlins and get rid of the springs finally.
Although I have to say I am still on the oem suspension with Eibach Pro kit which was nice with me in the last 40K miles, on these NYC etc roads and some track days
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That is a bold statement. Ohlins R&T are great value at their price point. But the best street coilover period? I am not so sure. All coilovers are a compromise between price/weight/performance/comfort/reliability/etc.
I suspect JRZ, MCS, Penske, Reiger could all put together a streetable coilover that would meet or exceed the Ohlins R&T in all categories (except maybe price).
Note the Ohlins R&T adjusts both rebound & compression with each click. For street use this is not really an issue, but for track use most ppl prefer/recommend a coilover that either adjusts them separately, or adjusts only rebound in the case of 1 ways. http://motioncontrolsuspension.com/1wnr/
I suspect JRZ, MCS, Penske, Reiger could all put together a streetable coilover that would meet or exceed the Ohlins R&T in all categories (except maybe price).
Note the Ohlins R&T adjusts both rebound & compression with each click. For street use this is not really an issue, but for track use most ppl prefer/recommend a coilover that either adjusts them separately, or adjusts only rebound in the case of 1 ways. http://motioncontrolsuspension.com/1wnr/
Last edited by nemsin; Jan 11, 2017 at 06:07 PM.
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That is a bold statement. Ohlins R&T are great value at their price point. But the best street coilover period? I am not so sure. All coilovers are a compromise between price/weight/performance/comfort/reliability/etc.
I suspect JRZ, MCS, Penske, Reiger could all put together a streetable coilover that would meet or exceed the Ohlins R&T in all categories (except maybe price).
Note the Ohlins R&T adjusts both rebound & compression with each click. For street use this is not really an issue, but for track use most ppl prefer/recommend a coilover that either adjusts them separately, or adjusts only rebound in the case of 1 ways. http://motioncontrolsuspension.com/1wnr/
I suspect JRZ, MCS, Penske, Reiger could all put together a streetable coilover that would meet or exceed the Ohlins R&T in all categories (except maybe price).
Note the Ohlins R&T adjusts both rebound & compression with each click. For street use this is not really an issue, but for track use most ppl prefer/recommend a coilover that either adjusts them separately, or adjusts only rebound in the case of 1 ways. http://motioncontrolsuspension.com/1wnr/
And yes, street use. That's what OP is asking about.
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That is a bold statement. Ohlins R&T are great value at their price point. But the best street coilover period? I am not so sure. All coilovers are a compromise between price/weight/performance/comfort/reliability/etc.
I suspect JRZ, MCS, Penske, Reiger could all put together a streetable coilover that would meet or exceed the Ohlins R&T in all categories (except maybe price).
Note the Ohlins R&T adjusts both rebound & compression with each click. For street use this is not really an issue, but for track use most ppl prefer/recommend a coilover that either adjusts them separately, or adjusts only rebound in the case of 1 ways. http://motioncontrolsuspension.com/1wnr/
I suspect JRZ, MCS, Penske, Reiger could all put together a streetable coilover that would meet or exceed the Ohlins R&T in all categories (except maybe price).
Note the Ohlins R&T adjusts both rebound & compression with each click. For street use this is not really an issue, but for track use most ppl prefer/recommend a coilover that either adjusts them separately, or adjusts only rebound in the case of 1 ways. http://motioncontrolsuspension.com/1wnr/
i am asking for suspension for road use between the KW V3 and the Ohlins DFV R/T. As i suspected the ohlins won the battle for me. Based on guys recommendations i trust in this case.
i have been using Ohlins, AST 5300, AMR, KW V3, Tein rally etc. Now Reiger Group N in my other evo which is witha driver about 3400lbs. I am pretty familiar with racing set ups, but I am lacking on street performance coilover knowledge.
The Reiger stumps on everything by FAR in that car. But that is not a street car neither 2000 dollar suspension. So i a can beilive Reiger could come up with something better for street and track, but i would say it would. cost twice easily.
My syreet car wouldnt be driven on track, maybe if i get pushed again in competition when i just go there to spectate, like it happened before not once. So this car 99.9% of the time is stricly a street car. Nothing more nothing less.
But thank you for your input.
Last edited by Robevo RS; Jan 11, 2017 at 10:24 PM.
#23
Ohlins Dual Valve technology allows for the shock to provide minimal dampening at high rate of shock travel, while maintaining adequate low frequency dampening characteristics (high dampening) for the installed springs. Due to low dampening as car crosses bumps, the rate of energy absorbtion of the suspension is increased, making the perceived jolt much more polerable. As more of the energy gets captured by the suspension due to higher rate of spring compression.
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Ohlins Dual Valve technology allows for the shock to provide minimal dampening at high rate of shock travel, while maintaining adequate low frequency dampening characteristics (high dampening) for the installed springs. Due to low dampening as car crosses bumps, the rate of energy absorbtion of the suspension is increased, making the perceived jolt much more polerable. As more of the energy gets captured by the suspension due to higher rate of spring compression.
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If the car is just for street driving (in NJ no less), I would agree that the KW V3 are a better choice than the Ohlins R&T. The KW's struts are made of stainless steel and come with a 100% rust-free unlimited life time warranty (vs. 2 years on the Ohlins). The Ohlins are aluminum and will start to show their age after a few harsh NJ winters.
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Showing age =/= going bad.
#27
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for example my ast 5300 have 130 mm BEFORE bumpstop
and no way KW V3 is better on road than Ohlins RT... I have installed 4 sets of RT on evo 9,10 and GTR and the everyday road behaviour of RT is way better than KW.. and I have experience with KW V3 on several cars..
having said that, I do think ohlins made a mistake with springs, especially on evo 9... on X less so, soyou might want stiffer springs in the rear..
Last edited by kikiturbo; Jan 13, 2017 at 02:33 AM.
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#29
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If the car is just for street driving (in NJ no less), I would agree that the KW V3 are a better choice than the Ohlins R&T. The KW's struts are made of stainless steel and come with a 100% rust-free unlimited life time warranty (vs. 2 years on the Ohlins). The Ohlins are aluminum and will start to show their age after a few harsh NJ winters.
what I do is take a brush and brush on some heavycopper grease on all the threadss... doesnt look nice but I am not into underside polishing.. works a treat though.