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B65 is one of the most common brake pad shapes for aftermarket Brembo calipers. Brembo website (http://www.brembo.com/en/Varie/Bremb...cationList.pdf) lists that there are as many as 236(!) brake calipers from their company that use this shape. It is hard to get, very expensive, and only has metallic compound available usually. I recently discovered that PFC Brakes claim that their B65 brake pad products also fit calipers that use XA5 brake pads (http://pfc.parts/product/b65/):
The actual XA5 brake pads are very slightly different:
E30: E36 front
E36: E36 M3 front
E46: E46 front
E46: E46 M3 front
E90/E92: E90 325/330/335 front
E60: E60 front
E63/E64: E63/E64 front
Z3: MZ3 front
Z4: Z4 M front
R35: GT-R Front
Another similar puzzle is that PFC's B15 brake pads (common for aftermarket Brembo's rear caliper) are also identical to a list of other brake pads (http://pfc.parts/product/b15/):
Consider how simple this pad is, I'm think any pads that go with the above part numbers (7780) should work just well as B15 in a Brembo:
2007+ R8: rear
2002+ S8: rear
2003+ Viper SRT10: front and rear
2007+ Mustang GT500: front
R35 GTR: rear
Have anyone of us have some insights or experience about XA5 brake pads to replace B65 brake pads? I sincerely appreciate any inputs.
Last edited by Lightsaber; Aug 22, 2017 at 11:11 PM.
Reason: Accidentally submitted thread before finish
I recently found another great information source for those running Brembo GT aftermarket brake systems. Pagid Racing actually has their own brake pad shape numbers for cross reference.
The pads for Evo X Brembo GT 380mm front have a Pagid shape number of 8061 (Brembo XA5.71.M2), where Pagid does not seem to recommend using this pad for OEM Brembo front brakes such as those on R35 GT-R. According to the Pagid website, Evo X Brembo GT 380mm front's 8061 has 48mm pad depth, while the 8081 one on R35 GT-R front has 66mm pad depth:
While the pads for Evo X Brembo GT 345mm rear have a Pagid shape number of 1281 and cross reference a lot of cars:
EBC also makes brake pads for Evo X Brembo GT. There is Yellowstuff for front DP4059R (Brembo XA5.71.M2) and for rear DP41110R. These seem to be among the best bang for the buck pads. A review can be found here: http://blog.streetsideauto.com/acces...street-review/
Originally Posted by Andy Sheehan
EBC rates their Yellowstuff pads for both track and street, and I find this accurate, though I haven’t taken them to the track (yet). Diving into a turn on a quickly-fading yellow light is no problem. Reacting to the behavior of a text-addicted teenager hogging up your lane is surprisingly easy. Yet, when you’re in “sane mode,” you won’t notice much of a difference. There’s no jerky grippiness when you’re rolling up to that stop sign. You won’t be dusting off your ABS every time you pull into your driveway. So when you need them to bite, they bite hard, but the rest of the time they play it cool, acting just like OE brakes.
But there is one key difference in everyday usability: dust. Hallet explained to me that most OE pads produce so much dust because they use cheap steel fibers as stock for their recipes. As these fibers heat up, they flake off and spray all over your rims, sticking there to form that dark and lovely wheel makeup we all know so well. Aside from a 5% quantity in their Ultimax line, EBC turns away steel fibers at the door. As a result, EBC pads produce virtually no dust.
Hawk also yet makes brake pads for Evo X Brembo GT. There is Hawk HPS 5.0 for front HB582B.660 and for rear HB193B.670. (No Hawk ceramic pads exist for the front, but there is one for rear.) A review can be found here: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1042276
Last edited by Lightsaber; Jun 16, 2018 at 12:53 PM.
Reason: Added info
Are you telling me that Raybestos does not make a pad for modified D66 profile calipers? If not, I have that pad modeled and ready to go. There is ONE Mercedes AMG caliper with a similar pad, and I happen to have that one, too.
Are you telling me that Raybestos does not make a pad for modified D66 profile calipers? If not, I have that pad modeled and ready to go. There is ONE Mercedes AMG caliper with a similar pad, and I happen to have that one, too.
I did a cross reference ("interchange") search on Raybestos and it indeed appears that they do not make brake pads for front XA5.71.M2 aka 8061 aka DP4059R aka HB582B.660 nor rear 07.4865.GT aka 1281 aka DP41110R aka HB193B.670. That said, I do think 8061 and 8081 are very similar pads. With its inner part trimmed 18mm, 8081 should(?) work in a caliper that uses 8061.
By the way, there is also some information on replacement rotors on Race Technologies website, although it does not provide specs like inner diameter, offset, or wheel bolt circle (probably 5x114.3 for Evo X).
Front:
Rear:
Last edited by Lightsaber; Jun 16, 2018 at 04:47 PM.
May 23, 2017, 09:01 PM
Are B65 brake pads the same as XA5 brake pads?
