Turbo Timer bad for MR edition
Originally Posted by Nesiop
I remember about 6 months ago a post about turbo timers hurting evo's in general... Something with maybe ignition? I can't find the thread but I remember a lot of people saying stuff about it...
though i have heard a decent amount of arguments about turbo timers not being necessary with a water&oil cooled turbo, i have never heard anything about a TT being harmful to the car. though i did do some searching, and found that it is true that the engine immobilizer function is sidestepped with a TT, but i don't think it poses a security risk as the TT makes the ECU think the key is still in the ignition, but doesn't have any function to make the ECU think someone is turning the key to start the car. but still, this is far from something that will hurt the engine/turbo.
THe only way it will hurt the car is if it is improperly installed( short circuit or fire), or if the ebrake ground is not hooked up and some dummy leaves it in gear and the car jumps into a curb. Ironically, i used to always leave the car in gear when parked until i got my evo and put in a turbo timer.
Originally Posted by Nesiop
I remember about 6 months ago a post about turbo timers hurting evo's in general... Something with maybe ignition? I can't find the thread but I remember a lot of people saying stuff about it...
YMMV,
Greg
^^ this guy is correct (the guy at the top of page 2)...most of you are incorrect...you dont need a turbo timer to let the car or turbo "cool" down...
when you are boosting, the turbine can spin upwards of 100,000 rpm...oil is fed into the turbine bearing to lubricate it...if you spool the car up and then immediately cut it off, your oil pump will also shut off...your turbine wheel will continue to spin, but there will be no oil circulating...over time the turbine will fail
as long as you dont spool the turbo directly before you shut the car off, you do not need a turbo timer...it doesnt really matter how long or how hard you drive the car...its just the few minutes before you shut the car off that matter
when you are boosting, the turbine can spin upwards of 100,000 rpm...oil is fed into the turbine bearing to lubricate it...if you spool the car up and then immediately cut it off, your oil pump will also shut off...your turbine wheel will continue to spin, but there will be no oil circulating...over time the turbine will fail
as long as you dont spool the turbo directly before you shut the car off, you do not need a turbo timer...it doesnt really matter how long or how hard you drive the car...its just the few minutes before you shut the car off that matter
Originally Posted by Mivo
and lets say you were running 22 psi and shifting at redline for about 3 hours a day and turned the car off right after i dont think the turbo would even make it to 30k...
The reason this whole thing was brought up is because some mitsu shop said they had had 4 evos detonate on cyl 4 that were running tt's. This is a complete load and have already stated my opinion on this shop once already, but thats not here nor there. After I read that post I did some research. I am a 12 year master installer and have put in bookos of tt's with no prob. They tried to say that when you turn off key and tt stays on most people do not hook up the acc wire becuase your keyless entry will not work if you do. They said that this causes a voltage drop which is completely untrue. There is in no way shape or form any way for this to happen. I even went as far as to go into alldata at my work and trace every wire from computer. The acc wire in the car does not power anything of importance. Keep your turbo timer and enjoy, its about the only thing mitsu will not void a warranty for. That should tell you right there. And btw this shop also said that greddy knows of this problem and has a new harness coming out to fix it?? I called my greddy dealer and they have never heard of this problem. I do not even use the harness, its only 1 ign wire, 1 12v, speed sense, ebrake, and ground. Just do it with no harness. It'll save you 20 bucks and less likely to fail as long as you solder.
and to inform everyone the immobilizer only reads when the car is started. While using the starter the ecu sees 1 resistance and after you release and it goes back to the run position it sees the run resistance. After less than a second of seeing this second resistance the immobilizer shuts down and doesnt reset until ign is turned off.
Originally Posted by Turbomatic240sx
Does that oil temperature gauge in the MR tell you anything useful with regard to cooling down? Mine only reachs about 75 degrees on the gauge.
Originally Posted by EVOtagger
as long as you dont spool the turbo directly before you shut the car off, you do not need a turbo timer...it doesnt really matter how long or how hard you drive the car...its just the few minutes before you shut the car off that matter
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