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This looks like it is going to be a great way for me to finally learn about transmissions. I agree that it would be easier to replace the LCD screen but the one in my car is in a different much higher up and further back location than the Evos without the huge control center. To access it requires buttons even having really long arms. Do some aftermarket LCD screens have connections that allow you to wire in buttons that would be on a steering wheel or in this case right in front of the LCD?
Does anyone have any links to a topic or article depicting everything needed to turn a Evolution GTA into that Evolution 8 I believe that came with 400hp or close to it right from Mitsubishi? Is a Garret turbo dual ball bearing or a just as good if not better new Borg Warner turbo going to be a better option than any Mitsubishi turbo? I have heard that replacing a torque converter in automatic transmissions can help with turbo lag.
Most important is there an article with the strength of stock internal engine parts somewhere? Someone on a Evo forum told me the connecting rods needed to be replaced in order to be strong enough to handle the high torque that would come with 400hp.
Does anyone here use automated water/methanol/windshield washer fluid injection into the intake to cool down temps and act like higher octane fuel? Is it common for people to route the rear windshield washer fluid jet to spray the intercooler to help with heat soak?
My first plans before adding horsepower are to reduce weight by taking out the spare tire, tools, old huge DVD player, possibly the rear seat and maybe the rear wiper plus motor. I also know that the $800 tiny race car batteries they sell with carbon fiber casing are also sold under a different name for less than $100 without the carbon fiber casing so I plan to install one of those as well. I really would like to get the car down to at least 1,200kg and hopefully further when I get around to making carbon fiber parts.
What is up with the lack of door window stripping/rubber sealers? Where does it drain or am I missing them?!
jmn17 I'm in Sydney btw
Large Japanese dash in mine and I came across a very rare auto 300kph 10k taco Ralliart cluster
Maybe an option for the Evo 9 auto wagon. Has mph in the inner numbers
I put a black 03 Outlander 220kph cluster in my Airtrek
The learning map is lower, but doesn't alter shift points any higher than your highest map
Mine are all the same bar 1st in the hot map. I will be altering the hot map for wot race anyway
Yep shift points changing isn't a problem, just the speed of the shift.
Yeah I've actually been looking at clusters recently, I'm beyond the speedo on the main straight at QR and I'm not even making that much power, silly 180kph dial. What sort of power are you making? I'm hoping I can get the box to handle 250-300kw reliably, just not sure how to go about it yet.
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Does anyone have any links to a topic or article depicting everything needed to turn a Evolution GTA into that Evolution 8 I believe that came with 400hp or close to it right from Mitsubishi? Is a Garret turbo dual ball bearing or a just as good if not better new Borg Warner turbo going to be a better option than any Mitsubishi turbo? I have heard that replacing a torque converter in automatic transmissions can help with turbo lag.
Does anyone here use automated water/methanol/windshield washer fluid injection into the intake to cool down temps and act like higher octane fuel? Is it common for people to route the rear windshield washer fluid jet to spray the intercooler to help with heat soak?
My first plans before adding horsepower are to reduce weight by taking out the spare tire, tools, old huge DVD player, possibly the rear seat and maybe the rear wiper plus motor. I also know that the $800 tiny race car batteries they sell with carbon fiber casing are also sold under a different name for less than $100 without the carbon fiber casing so I plan to install one of those as well. I really would like to get the car down to at least 1,200kg and hopefully further when I get around to making carbon fiber parts.
What is up with the lack of door window stripping/rubber sealers? Where does it drain or am I missing them?!
There are many ways to make that sort of power with an evo, its just a bit harder with a GT-A as they lose a lot more power in the transmission compared to a manual. Never missing a shift, not losing boost between shifts and shift speed can help make up for some of the deficit but there will be a numbers difference on the dyno. Plenty of stock frame turbo's to choose from to make that sort of power. It has been said Evo 7's have weaker rods than 8's but I've seen no evidence that is actually true.
E85 makes meth/water injection a bit of a hard sell in my book. E85 is awesome, just depends how easy it is for you to get. A lot of people rip out the intercooler sprayer that comes on GSRs because its heavy, it breaks, and it doesn't actually do much. The GT-A has an extra oil cooler fro the transmission where the intercooler sprayer is on the manuals.
The spare wheel is surprisingly heavy... but remember when you start taking stuff out of the car like back seats, it very quickly makes the car less useful, and a lot louder. The seats weigh very little and keep the car a lot quieter. I have mine out at the moment and its amazing how much sound that seat blocked. My fuel pump is so loud. You might like it though I kinda do, but I daily a much quieter, comfier car.
Yep shift points changing isn't a problem, just the speed of the shift.
Yeah I've actually been looking at clusters recently, I'm beyond the speedo on the main straight at QR and I'm not even making that much power, silly 180kph dial. What sort of power are you making? I'm hoping I can get the box to handle 250-300kw reliably, just not sure how to go about it yet.
There are many ways to make that sort of power with an evo, its just a bit harder with a GT-A as they lose a lot more power in the transmission compared to a manual. Never missing a shift, not losing boost between shifts and shift speed can help make up for some of the deficit but there will be a numbers difference on the dyno. Plenty of stock frame turbo's to choose from to make that sort of power. It has been said Evo 7's have weaker rods than 8's but I've seen no evidence that is actually true.
E85 makes meth/water injection a bit of a hard sell in my book. E85 is awesome, just depends how easy it is for you to get. A lot of people rip out the intercooler sprayer that comes on GSRs because its heavy, it breaks, and it doesn't actually do much. The GT-A has an extra oil cooler fro the transmission where the intercooler sprayer is on the manuals.
The spare wheel is surprisingly heavy... but remember when you start taking stuff out of the car like back seats, it very quickly makes the car less useful, and a lot louder. The seats weigh very little and keep the car a lot quieter. I have mine out at the moment and its amazing how much sound that seat blocked. My fuel pump is so loud. You might like it though I kinda do, but I daily a much quieter, comfier car.
I think somone stole your rubber seals...
Oh sweet jebus. Now I am happy that the car was baking in the sun for most of its life. All the controls work and no water dripped out so I guess it is not too late. The stick part of my antenna rubber has fallen apart but the base is fine, is it an easy fix or do I have to take out the roof lining to access it?
Yeah it is unfortunate about the automatic transmission taking away so much power but I will keep it in and build it up especially because if I do want a full track car I can sell it to my friend in a wheel chair who can install hand controls and then just buy an RS.
I will have to check out the rear seats. Often a quick release can be made very inexpensively. The rear tire will be replaced with a can of that hole filler, a pack of baking soda and basic super glue. Super glue mixed with baking soda dries instantly and dries x10 harder. They use it to fill and fix helicopter and air plane propellers and it will patch oil lines and last even when your fan is trying to cut another hole into the tube. Even VW replaced their spare tires with electric scooters lol.
Once I have 400-450 awhp I will be extremely happy. I have a warranty on the car so for a year or 22,000km it is going to remain mostly stock and be my daily. After that I think I will leave the dash, sound installation and auto transmission because it still is lighter than a lot of cars and I would be better off selling it if I was going to rip all that stuff out. But I may change my mind because it is essentially useless stuff now. Do stock electronics really affect value of a car when they are outdated. I do like how it hugs the driver and passenger more than the regular dashboards so maybe a work around can be done, for example, keeping the face plate of the gigantic 2002 1ft long six inch high and eight inch wide DVD player and then just turning the face plate into a cover for extra storage. I can make custom carbon fiber parts at home.
Thank you for helping me out. The Volkswagen community is the worst online community in the world. You get yelled and dissed at for asking questions that are too advanced for the know it alls or if you change anything on your car. The community is not even about cars! It is about extreme conformity and roof racks.
That being said has anyone else seen the mighty mods race between the modified Evo 8 and the stock Golf 7? I can't believe the golf was over taking the Evo 8 in the corners and doing alright in the straights. I cannot let that happen to my car. The only downside to this car is teenage idiots in lifted stock trucks try to race me and show off when I am driving casually. Thank God I don't have race vents or a five foot high spoiler!
Quick question, should I bring my GTA before the bottom is rust proofed to run in an amateur rally this next weekend or use my 1.8T rally modified Jetta that can still over take AWD Subarus?
Oh and e85 is not available here in British Columbia Canada at most gas stations. We have 98 at one brand of gas station which is why a water/meth kit really would be needed for me to get high boost. It is not tuned for Canadian gas yet either so no red lining it. Is there a particular open source tune people use on this car? I found some info on this board about using a particular guys tune but it is for the regular Evo turbo not our small inlet turbos. If I cannot find some good open source tunes I might take a class in person to learn how to tune and start by tuning my Turboed Jetta to get the extra 40hp available from the ECU alone. Unless everyone here thinks you can actually become an awesome tuner just by using online tutorials and videos...
The importer seems to think that they're window seals otherwise it would already be leaking. They would have to be below the hard black plastic trim next to the window though that you can see in the picture.
Oh and I edited the image to make it appear more vibrant and such, hopefully it will actually look this nice when I clay bar it to get rid of over a decade of pollution and then wax it to bring it back to life.
Yeah the seal is not obvious, its quite recessed, small and doesn't really feel like rubber. I took a look at my Audi which has a much larger more obvious exposed rubber seal, if that is what you are used to with VWs.
The antenna should just screw out from the top. Mine fell apart too and I ended up using an extra antenna I had off an 86. The rear seat base is a quick release, and there are maybe 4 bolts on the top half. If you are used to VWs you'll soon find out japanese cars are built quite differently. A lot less screws and bolts...
In regards to the MCM video, I have and Audi S3 which is basically the same as the Golf R. They are quick stock and riduculously easy to get power out of with a flash tune. Add a DSG to that and you have a surprisingly quick car with very little effort. It kept up with a fairly modified evo because it was running poorly and the golfs have a very responsive turbo, great DSG and the tight track suited the golf. It was just two mates having fun. The golfs are super capable cars, so are evo's, and while on paper they seem similar, they are chalk and cheese to drive.
I've taken my car to the dirt tracks as well. I very quickly realised that dirt track racing is best left for crapboxes and dedicated rally cars. Its so harsh on the cars. Do what you want of course but I felt bad for my car haha.
I'd say the chances of finding a GTA tune for Canadian fuel is slim. There is decades of experience and info on the tuning part of the forum. I don't mean to discourage you, and it took me a long time to realise but I discovered that not trying to do everything myself resulted in my car running a significantly higher proportion of the time letting me have a lot more fun driving at events. It beats blowing an engine or having your car on stands for 6 months which is what tended to happen when I tried to do it all.
My car is definitely going to be driven on dirt quite a bit even just as a daily. I think it will be fine except for the paint which is already going. I will likely just pay for the proper tune from a local Mitsubishi builder.
I have a year under warranty where I am stuck to installing only external bolt on mods, not including, a turbo and possibly even injectors. From what I have read it seems that cams and a bigger turbo is the way to go before buying a different turbo back exhaust system and air intake.
Does this car already have a wide band o2 sensor? Has anyone here even noticed more hp from a turbo back exhaust and a short ram intake on an otherwise stock car?
Stock Tranny on this GT-A are not quite strong..Here in my country was made the fully Programable (Apexi Power FC) GT-A I think this one and one from AU are the only ones..The car was Stock Turbo and stock motor (injectors,cams,Etc) and the car got 350whp and the tranny didnt hold up..
Awesome, can you give any details on any transmission mods you've done to achieve it? Any videos or pages on the car? I'd love to see it.
Well, we have done a few mods with it - installed brand new sattelite gears, installed Borg Warner friction plates, modified valves, increased oil channels in valve body, increased oil pressure, minimised gear engagement timing.
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Does anyone change the automatic transmission filter,
what's the part #, what fits. Does the timing belt, parts from the evo 8 fit?
You can only change the oil filter from the bell housing side. Typically the clutch ware is 2x reverse clutches, 4x 2nd, 4x 3rd. Without removing the box, a decent service is remove the side, change all those clutches, inspect the barrel planetries. You can weld those 7 planet pins, but don't think the box is stronger now, because the output planetry is usually the 1st to die. Cheers
Hey all...i am a total newbie here so would like your help as much as i can get.
I have taken up a project to mod my friend's Evo VII GT-A. so far the engine is stock with a HKS Pod filter and Blitz NUR Spec R exhaust. it also has HKS EVC6 and boosting at 15.5psi
i would like to share the details of my plan with u and ask for ur suggestions and opinions
I have split the project in 2 major parts. 1st part is the valvetrain with the following upgrades:
Cosworth CNC Ported Big Valve Cylinder Head
HKS Camshaft Duration 264 (Intake & Exhaust)
HKS Cam Pulley
Tomei Head Studs
then i want to upgrade the turbo with HKS GT3037S turbo kit with the manifold and all with wastegate and upgrade to HKS R-type intercooler, and also use Skunk2 PRO series intake manifold with 68mm throttle body. Upgrading the fuel system with HKS rail, FPR, fuel pump and 1000cc injectors and throwing in a HKS Twin Fire DLI. getting rom from ecutek/flash (not decided yet).
we dont want to bore the block so not upgrading to oversize pistons. will stick to cosworth forged 85mm pistons and use thicker gasket to lower compression
at the end, we are expecting approx 425-450hp at the wheel @27-30psi boost.
looking for any suggestions/tips/opinions from the experts here
How accessible are US brands to you? Because most people here are more familiar with them than the Japanese ones.
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