I have 162 stock as of now but will be pushing a lot more when I get my turbo or may just skip turbo all together and get a supercharger.

 

Don't do a supercharger. Now days the turbos almost spool just as fast a supercharger. The supercharger will just cut out on you at higher speeds the turbo in more likely to keep boost for much longer.

 

If you don't set it up right with supporting mods, all of it.

 

hey thanks for the on that info... i'm still doing my homework on turbo and also on superchargers. I'm not familar with superchargers at all. So I would be just better getting turbo down the road? What will give me the most whp??

 

This is half-true. The MAIN difference between the two:

Supercharger - Belt-driven, spools instantly but takes horsepower to create power. Good for any band of the RPM range. Depending on what type you buy will determine how much power you get. The GTP Grand Prix's use a Roots-style, which means only about 56% efficiency, give or take. The centrifugal type (made by Vortech) are more efficient.

Turbocharger - Works on Exhaust driven gases. It takes no EXTRA power to run, but, needs at least 2000 - 3000 RPM to spool up.

My personal preference is a turbo because your belt already has enough equipment being driven off of it. If you have a serpentine belt like most modern cars now, you have A/C, power steering, water pump, crank, etc.

Remember: Anything higher than 5 or 6 psi of boost will require bottom end building of your engine...this is why most factory cars, the GTP and any turbo car only run that much...USUALLY.

Hope this clears something up for you.

 

Your claim that a turbo takes no EXTRA power to run is not entirely true. A turbo restricts the flow of exhaust gasses, which, naturally causes you to lose power.

strike

 

It doesn't restrict the flow...it compresses it...which is why you have a compressor wheel and a turbine shaft...one goes out to the exhaust one goes back to your intercooler to be cooled...trust me on this, I had a performance class in school. I also work at BMW, and ask any tech here what they say about it. Plus, if that's the ONLY complaint you have about my "claim", then obviously I have gotten my point across.

 

i was not trying to prove you wrong, only to further elucidate what you were saying. do you think that the compression of the exhaust gasses causes a restriction in the flow of exhaust gasses? i think so.

strike

 

I'd do up to a T4. Thats racing boost and the ralliart can probably hang with 18psi tops. Thats about 120HP on top of that 167HP that it has stock, and without interior mods (other than reinforcing pistons, rings and rods).

The compression is a cumulative thing, and before it ever gets to the exhaust. Compression in the technical sense is the cooling of air. Exhaust is the heated product after ignition and expands so its always pushing at least twice that of the compressed air. Restricted Gasses? Um... only if too much exhaust is pushing out of the exhaust system. If that does happen, you get a back-fire effect that tuners like to call "blow-back." Thats when all that hot air is push out, but cold air enters back through the exhaust. This air is then ignited and makes that embarassing gunshot sound. If you do restrict the exhaust flow of a turbo application, it'll never make it to the header. It'll go thru the bypass valve, blow-off valve or wastegate first. If it happens while the turbo is spooling then thats when you get ready to invest in another turbocharger.

 

Around 140-145

 

Approx 200 on my NA mivec lancer MR 1994

 

mine i think has 105 hp... doesn't move at all. im getting a crankshaft pulley.. should bring it up to 120

 

it need more

 

I think my lancer puts out less than 100 hp.

haha j/k