Am I Over Paying????
I took my car to the dealership to get a Oil Change, after all that was done, he told me that I needed a to replace both front and rear brake pads. He told me that it was gonna cost about $850, Now I dunno but that sounds stupid for some brake pads.
Listen, I paid 200 bucks for a set of Project U (mu) brake pads from Vivid and did the install MYSELF. Honestly, even if someone did a pad slap on the un cut rotors (recomended by many) it shouldn't cost you that much. ****, cut rotors, a BJ, dinner with a bottle of Crystal should cost 850........haha
I would punch him in the face for talking so stupid. I would also never go back to that dealer again. New aftermarket (better pads) front and rear should run you no more than $300 and it can be even less. Install is very easy even though I did it wrong, but I can easily correct it. If you pay a shop they will want approx. $100 to $150 in labor. Misc. parts will run you about $20-30.
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Changing pads on the EVO takes about 10 min. a corner, and the only tools you need (once you get the wheel off) are a hammer, a small drift punch or a nail and some way to push the caliper pistons back in. On my first pad change I was able to push the pistons back using the old pads and a small prybar. I used the prybar because it had a wide flat end. It takes very little force to move the pistons. I am looking for a reasonably priced tool designed for a caliper like the brembo.
There are 3 reasons the dealership charges so much for brake service.
1) The parts are really expensive. Plus they are really expensive JUNK.
2) The 11th commandment for retail auto shops is: Thou shalt turn brake rotors when replacing pads. The shop manual calls for a runout and drag test when changing pads, not turning rotors unless tests indicate the need. The dealership chooses to ignore this little bit of information
3) The part I bet they dont ignore is that the shop manual calls for on car turning when the rotors are out of spec. An on-car brake lathe is a very expensive bit of kit, and requires more time than pulling off the rotors. Dealerships charge accordingly. However I turned my rotors about 5 thousanths (not much) on a regular old lathe and have not had any problems. I dont think anyone will have problems turning rotors off car to get rid of pad transfer problems or minor imperfections.
There are a lot of brake problems that can be solved by on car turning, the trick is either to know enough yourself or find a good shop that will only sell you what you need(good luck).
If you dont have the desire/ability/place etc. to work on your own car I would highly recommend finding a good race shop for service and repairs you have to pay for. You might pay more in labor, but you will save on parts and stand a much better chance of getting a good job. I'm not saying that a dealership is not going to do a good job, but the almost a race car EVO needs the added attention to detail that is best offered by people who are used to working on race cars.
Changing pads on the EVO takes about 10 min. a corner, and the only tools you need (once you get the wheel off) are a hammer, a small drift punch or a nail and some way to push the caliper pistons back in. On my first pad change I was able to push the pistons back using the old pads and a small prybar. I used the prybar because it had a wide flat end. It takes very little force to move the pistons. I am looking for a reasonably priced tool designed for a caliper like the brembo.
There are 3 reasons the dealership charges so much for brake service.
1) The parts are really expensive. Plus they are really expensive JUNK.
2) The 11th commandment for retail auto shops is: Thou shalt turn brake rotors when replacing pads. The shop manual calls for a runout and drag test when changing pads, not turning rotors unless tests indicate the need. The dealership chooses to ignore this little bit of information
3) The part I bet they dont ignore is that the shop manual calls for on car turning when the rotors are out of spec. An on-car brake lathe is a very expensive bit of kit, and requires more time than pulling off the rotors. Dealerships charge accordingly. However I turned my rotors about 5 thousanths (not much) on a regular old lathe and have not had any problems. I dont think anyone will have problems turning rotors off car to get rid of pad transfer problems or minor imperfections.
There are a lot of brake problems that can be solved by on car turning, the trick is either to know enough yourself or find a good shop that will only sell you what you need(good luck).
If you dont have the desire/ability/place etc. to work on your own car I would highly recommend finding a good race shop for service and repairs you have to pay for. You might pay more in labor, but you will save on parts and stand a much better chance of getting a good job. I'm not saying that a dealership is not going to do a good job, but the almost a race car EVO needs the added attention to detail that is best offered by people who are used to working on race cars.
THe dealership is always going to charge more. I asked mine how much it would cost if I wanted them to install my turbo timer, Figure their around the car alot, they should know it well enough not to **** it up. They wanted $240!!! I said screw that, and I called up one of the performance shops around here, and they did it for $40. Shop around dude. I didn't think there would be much of a price difference for the same thing, but there really is.
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