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lutionDog Feb 22, 2007 07:20 AM

Evo's chassis
 
I brought my car to a tires shop last week, and the shop owner told me that he likes evo more than STi coz the chassis is stiffer than STi's. Is that right? :cool:

nutsack Feb 22, 2007 10:10 AM

yes.

Danny23 Feb 22, 2007 11:20 AM

i read the new lancer coming out will have a stiffer chassis than the evo IX chassis.

nutsack Feb 22, 2007 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by Danny23 (Post 4007310)
i read the new lancer coming out will have a stiffer chassis than the evo IX chassis.

i read that too... sport compact march 2007 issue right?

sonicnofadz Feb 22, 2007 05:13 PM

Yes the Evo X chassis will be stiffer than all previous Evo's, and it will also be the heaviest by far. What is also interesting, is that Chrysler developed the chassis for the Evo X (based on an SUV chassis) and Mitsubishi did not develop the chassis. :thumbdown

lutionDog Feb 22, 2007 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by sonicnofadz (Post 4008843)
Yes the Evo X chassis will be stiffer than all previous Evo's, and it will also be the heaviest by far. What is also interesting, is that Chrysler developed the chassis for the Evo X (based on an SUV chassis) and Mitsubishi did not develop the chassis. :thumbdown

Please NO!:mad:

trinydex Feb 22, 2007 08:59 PM

no wonder it's so heavy...

JTB Feb 22, 2007 09:01 PM

From what I have heard the new sequential 2 clutch transmission is responsible for a lot of the weight.

DanJ Feb 22, 2007 09:06 PM

It might be slightly stiffer. But what most people probably feel is the steering feel from the quick steering rack, and I believe the evo is 200lbs lighter.

I believe the main reason for the evo X weighing a bit more is due to safety regulations. They now require additional safety items such as side air bags and such.

Tristar Feb 22, 2007 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by sonicnofadz (Post 4008843)
Yes the Evo X chassis will be stiffer than all previous Evo's, and it will also be the heaviest by far. What is also interesting, is that Chrysler developed the chassis for the Evo X (based on an SUV chassis) and Mitsubishi did not develop the chassis. :thumbdown

Again, spreading misinterperated info in threads...

The platform the new Lancer is based is a design that was done by both DCX and Mitsu during the brief period when DCX took a larger stake in Mitsu. The Outlander also uses the same basic platform. That being said,

1. DCX did NOT act alone in designing the platform

2. It is NOT a SUV chassis, rather the basic platform has been used to create SUVs (Patriot, Outlander, the Caliber is not an SUV)

3. Mitsu somehow managed to obtain better torsional numbers than any of the DCX vehicles based on the same platform, meaning they are NOT exactly the same.

4. Devils advocate, lets say DCX did design the chassis completely. Are you too ignorant to realize that american engineers can manage to properly engineer a platform when given a decent budget? I dont care if Yugo designed the chassis, if its torsional resistance and bending stresses are greater than those of the current Evo, its a good basis for a performance vehicle period.

Yes it is heavier, and once again care to answer any of my points from a prior thread about handling? For a refresher, you stated because its heavier it can in no way handle better than the current Evo. I brought up the fact your comments do not take into account suspension geometery, center of gravity height in relation to roll center height, AYC, etc. If it were a rock, then yes a heaver one will have a harder time changing direction. A car is not a rock, however, and other systems come into play when turning besides weight. Also, have you seen the mandates the US government has placed on new cars? Revised impact standards front, side, rear, etc. Kind of hard to meet those stadards and keep weight exactly the same, right?

You act like the car will be 3800 lbs. Relax, and stop spreading incorrect info.

Danny23 Feb 22, 2007 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by nutsack (Post 4007420)
i read that too... sport compact march 2007 issue right?

I,m not talking about the new evo. Its the new lancer gts they mentioned.April issue ofsport compact car. QUOTE,While the lancer version of the 4b11 engine isnt necessarily ground breaking, the chassis is. With more torsional and bending rigidity than the current Evo IX and all its added chassis reinforcements, the base lancer hints at just how silly- stiff the Evo X will be. Thats a direct quote.

sonicnofadz Feb 23, 2007 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by Tristar Racing (Post 4009881)
Again, spreading misinterperated info in threads...

The platform the new Lancer is based is a design that was done by both DCX and Mitsu during the brief period when DCX took a larger stake in Mitsu. The Outlander also uses the same basic platform. That being said,

1. DCX did NOT act alone in designing the platform

2. It is NOT a SUV chassis, rather the basic platform has been used to create SUVs (Patriot, Outlander, the Caliber is not an SUV)

3. Mitsu somehow managed to obtain better torsional numbers than any of the DCX vehicles based on the same platform, meaning they are NOT exactly the same.

4. Devils advocate, lets say DCX did design the chassis completely. Are you too ignorant to realize that american engineers can manage to properly engineer a platform when given a decent budget? I dont care if Yugo designed the chassis, if its torsional resistance and bending stresses are greater than those of the current Evo, its a good basis for a performance vehicle period.

Yes it is heavier, and once again care to answer any of my points from a prior thread about handling? For a refresher, you stated because its heavier it can in no way handle better than the current Evo. I brought up the fact your comments do not take into account suspension geometery, center of gravity height in relation to roll center height, AYC, etc. If it were a rock, then yes a heaver one will have a harder time changing direction. A car is not a rock, however, and other systems come into play when turning besides weight. Also, have you seen the mandates the US government has placed on new cars? Revised impact standards front, side, rear, etc. Kind of hard to meet those stadards and keep weight exactly the same, right?

You act like the car will be 3800 lbs. Relax, and stop spreading incorrect info.

Hmmmm everything I said here was true. There was NO mis-information. The chassis IS heavier and is at least partially made by Chrysler (from what I have been reading, DCX did MOST of the devlopment for the new chassis), and there are SUV's based off of the same chassis. Enough said. I mentioned nothing that implied anything about performance. Calm yourself.

bluebyu36 Feb 23, 2007 09:51 AM

whatever

Vigo Feb 23, 2007 10:01 AM

sonicnofadz needs to be banned forever.

sonicnofadz Feb 23, 2007 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by Vigo (Post 4011668)
sonicnofadz needs to be banned forever.

For what? For not jumping on the bandwagon of Evo X butt lovers?


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