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09GTS May 22, 2009 07:22 PM

MR or GSR.. I'm torn
 
S'up gents,

I'm lookin' to come into a decent amount of money here soon and am torn between trading my Lancer in for a GSR or the MR. I did some searches across the forum and noted the MR seems to suffer the same problem (although mechanically different) that us Lancer CVT owners seem to have. You can only apply so much power. BUT!! With that in mind.. I'm still loving the leather trim on the interior. I traded in an '01 Lincoln LS for the Lancer, so I'm missing my plush leather interior, but is it worth it to go the MR route and be limited or go with a GSR and just get a leather wrap job later on down the road?

I'm torn. :(

Boost3dxEvO May 22, 2009 07:27 PM

GSR and if you like the Interior so much.. wait until some one parts one out down the road..

tipoytm May 22, 2009 07:52 PM

MR has its advantages, for one, my wife would have enjoyed driving the X cuz it doesn't have a clutch and a softer ride! Plus, MR has those sexy BBS wheels. But I <3 my GSR.

evo<3 May 22, 2009 08:55 PM

i love my MR sway and leather seats..sexyy and bbs rims lovein emm i love my MR it all comes down to well i guess in your mind is a better choice. yes the 6 spd suffers a litle from high HP but its nice every once and a while to have that 6th gear ahahah

Good Luck!!

Blue8g May 22, 2009 08:59 PM

GSR an performance cars should be MT! not auto...and yes TC-SST is auto

tipoytm May 22, 2009 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by Blue8g (Post 7091265)
GSR an performance cars should be MT! not auto...and yes TC-SST is auto

It's an automatic, but not a conventional automatic. It is actually & mechanically similar to the manual transmission (it doesn't use a torque converter). The only difference with the TC-SST and a full manual transmission is the absence of a clutch pedal(it uses a computer-controlled wet-type twin clutch) and the H-stick shifter. Get your facts straight :P

The way the MR delivers power to the wheels & the way it feels is very much the same as a GSR. You just don't need to "step on the clutch"

Clutchdc5 May 22, 2009 09:50 PM

i met a guy at the meet, he was young around 18, he baught the X MR as a first car, and he baught the MR cause he couldnt drive stick, so that made me hate all DSG, but people gotta learn how to drive before you own a pure sports car. GSR FTW

skyblas May 22, 2009 09:52 PM

get the GSR
and its all depends on you
whether u like MT or TC-SST more
if u like the manual
u can always wait for part out
that will solve your leather problem

tipoytm May 22, 2009 10:10 PM

The question there is do you know how to drive stick? If you don't, the MR is really worth a look. Test drive it if you can... you will find it VERY different to your Lancer's CVT or any other automatics you've driven before.

Read reviews about the MR's TC-SST, edmunds and motortrend reviewers have only high praises for it. Plus I heard the TC-SST should be able to handle 400HP if you plan to mod for performance. Seriously, it is an engineering milestone... why would supercars like the new mighty Nissan GT-R use the same transmission type? GT-R doesn't even have a stick-shifter option, and it is more of a "sportscar" than the Evo.

sith_killer_99 May 22, 2009 10:15 PM

It really all depends on what you plan to do with the car.

As a DD with light to moderate mods and more city driving the MR is probably the way to go. It can still be modded (keep it below 320wtq) and run well at the track.

If you are looking to go with really high tq/hp and lots of high end mods, fastest 1/4 mile times, etc. then the GSR is the way to go. If you are used to driving a manual and want to stick with it, go for the GSR. Also if you are looking to save a few bucks the GSR retails for $5,300 less.

As far as the CVT/TC-SST go, they are 2 very different creatures! The TC-SST is a much more high performance transmission. Keep in mind the TC-SST is relatively new technology and as such you will pay the price to be an early adoptor. There are aftermarket parts in the works, but stuff like this takes times. The early adoptors usually end up being the R&D.:lol:

Don't be fooled, the TC-SST is a great transmission and it has it's advantages, but just like anything else it has it's drawbacks.

My recommendation is always....go drive 'em both, see which you like best, see which one suits your needs best and make the decision based on you.

tipoytm May 22, 2009 10:25 PM

^ aye, don't listen to MR bashers... give it a try like sith said. I only picked the GSR because I grew up driving cars w/ manual shifters and I miss it... plus, it is $5K cheaper. If the MR was considerably cheaper than what it is now, I would have opt for it so my wife could also drive...

Blue8g May 23, 2009 07:45 AM

yeah just because i hate the mr don't rule that out i don't even have an evo lol, but check both out see which feels better to YOU, and either way i can pretty well guarantee you'll love it....

atombomb33 May 23, 2009 08:51 AM

Only thing I can add is that if you are a diehard manual transmission guy and absolutely have to have a third pedal, the MR will not be the car for you. The novelty of the transmission's quick shifts, rev-match downshifts and playing with the paddle shifters will wear off over a few months and you'll be wanting to row your own gears again. This happened to me with my VW R32 which has DSG (only transmission offered). Every car I had owned before the R32 was a manual transmission (16 years of driving). The DSG was great for the first few months...and then it became boring to drive because you can't be as engaged in the driving experience. Same thing happened to a bunch of guys who bought the R32. Wouldn't be surprised if it starts happening to guys who own the MR. Food for thought.

D420mac May 23, 2009 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by Blue8g (Post 7091265)
GSR an performance cars should be MT! not auto...and yes TC-SST is auto

Have you driven an MR? They feel very good! Go with the MR! this guy dosen't know what he is talking about!!

I'll sell you my GSR it's practically brand new, fully loaded

D420mac May 23, 2009 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by Blue8g (Post 7091945)
yeah just because i hate the mr don't rule that out i don't even have an evo lol, but check both out see which feels better to YOU, and either way i can pretty well guarantee you'll love it....

dude how can you offer an opinion, if you don't own an evo?

I've owned an 05 GSR
I own an 06 IX MR interior is much better than GSR
Paying on 07 Outlander XLS paddle shift Automatic, fun when you want to leave from the light quick.
I own an 08 GSR great handling car alot of fun. Purchased before MR was available.
Driven 08 MR Wow It was fun, I like the fact that it's an auto manual, great for daily driving, and traffic. Sport modes, for when your on back roads, or highway. has blue tooth, and better interior. Only downside is if modded it will not surpass the 450 whp due to tranny. But help is on the way............... Don't worry it's new, the parts will come out!!


I'm willing to trade the OB GSR fully loaded for an MR it must have NAV, PM me.


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