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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by wshihdnevo
dual exhaust is gay though...you have to agree w/ that...
Dual exhaust is just for cosmetic purposes. It more like a "the more the more horsepower this car has" which we all know it is not true. Almost every car on the market right now has dual exhausts, look at TSX and SRT4. But ya, dual exhaust is rather useless with a 4 cylinder engine.
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 02:37 AM
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you guys say torque is where the fun is then why didnt you buy an sti. Dont get me wrong i love tourque but is this evo gunna still be a top end beast or is it just gunna feel faster cuz the tourqe. Hopefully with a tune you can bring those hp numbers ap. Is the power it states at the wheels or crank. is the handling gunna be better with the new system. i cant wait tell we line up the 9 and the 10 and see whats up.
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by madfast
the "official" hp number is obviously underrated. besides the fact that every japanese sports car being rated at 276 hp is fishy, the 4b11 has less stroke than the 4g63 yet makes 311 ft lbs vs 289 for the 4g63. whatever is making more tq will also make more hp especially given that displacement is basically the same and that the stroke is actually DECREASED and the redline is 7000.

this video makes the engine look very promising.
agreed
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 06:44 AM
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I wouldn't pay too much attention to the HP rating for the Japanese market, it will most likely be rated more in the USA and even then it will still propably be underrated. Now the torque is a different story, usually japanese companies are hesistant to release horse power figures above 280hp, but torque they usually rate close to right, and if the EVO X is making 310-315tq, then I wouldn't be surprised to see the HP rating at 315-320hp.
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 06:56 AM
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dont forget the car is heavier than the current evo tho, so i believe after tuning it will feel just the same as all the others
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
Rather than underrated, its probably detuned. Its making great peak torque values, and the HP curve seems to have a very flat top suggesting that they are simply pulling back boost to keep the HP within the 276 HP value agreed upon for JDM vehicles. 300+ HP could be as easy as a tune.

The question that wont be answered for a while is whether the new motor can handle big HP, e.g. 400 whp+.
It was probably detuned jut to make that Dynograph. It'll most likely be making the full amount of HP right off the lot. (Full as in what the factory designed)

Originally Posted by wshihdnevo
dual exhaust is gay though...you have to agree w/ that...
There is one benefit. If it is a dual-muffler design, you can run different sized mufflers to nearly eliminate highway drone. But most peopel will be runnign single muffler systems to save weight. It doesn't say anywhere that you HAVE to have two tips.

Originally Posted by Stiggy
dont forget the car is heavier than the current evo tho, so i believe after tuning it will feel just the same as all the others
WE're not sure just how heavier yet. That red Evo looked like it was really stripped down. I think the X is going to surprise a lot of people when the final figures are released.
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Stiggy
dont forget the car is heavier than the current evo tho, so i believe after tuning it will feel just the same as all the others
How do you know this, they haven't released weight figures yet, all you have heard or read is speculation and the way this speculation has been achieved has led me to question some of these automobile sources. I believe (and this is my own specualtion) is that the EVO X will not weigh over 3,500lbs, it may not weigh over 3,400lbs. It may be heavier than the EVO IX, but in my opinion not by too much. I also wouldn't be surprised if Mitsubishi fools us all and the EVO X is lighter than the EVO IX, doubt it though, but still wouldn't surprise me too much.
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Stiggy
dont forget the car is heavier than the current evo tho, so i believe after tuning it will feel just the same as all the others

Beats me how people still don't get speculation is just as bad as me saying the Evo X will come out with 1000hp

Speculation is speculation, people like to write **** so we can have something to talk about.

Until it's for sure, lets leave speculation as that and not try to make it a fact.
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Draco-REX
I made some comments on the video HERE.

I am disappointed in the low HP number, but really, Torque is where the fun is at. And 311 stock is very good.

I also noted that I belive 276hp is the magic number that the japanese auto manufacturers agreed upon. So it may very well be underrated. Frankly, I'm much more interested in the torque figure and I'm rather happy about it.
dude the gentlemen rule has long been broken by nissan than honda now toyota and soon subaru and mitsubishi
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Tureno-AE86
dude the gentlemen rule has long been broken by nissan than honda now toyota and soon subaru and mitsubishi
Yes it has been, but it still has lasting influence on Japanese automobiles. The perfect example is the EVO IX, we all know in reality that the engine makes 300hp or more especially when you factor in the extra drivetrain loss for AWD, but Mitsubishi continues to rate it low. My point is I just wouldn't pay to much attention to Mitsubishi factory ratings. Even if it was rated at 320hp, I would be like great, but my true interest will be from owners who dyno their Xs. A true 276hp rating is like only 230-235 horsepower to the wheels, do you honestly think the EVO X will only make 230-235whp when both the EVO IX and EVO VIII make atleast 15 to 25whp more. Sh*t some IXs have dynoed in the 270s. Seriously wait till the car does a true dyno till we pass judgment on its power. My best guess is that it will make atleast 270-280whp, if it makes even more, that would be awesome .
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Tureno-AE86
dude the gentlemen rule has long been broken by nissan than honda now toyota and soon subaru and mitsubishi
But doesn't it seem odd that the new engine puts out *exactly* 280ps/276hp? Or that it does this while making 311lb-ft of torque. Normally, you don't see torque ratings that much higher than the hp except in large-displacement, low-revving engines. We're talking about a "square" 2.0L 7000RPM engine here.

This I think is the biggest indicator that we're not getting the full story. As 3000ways says, let's wait for the first X to hit the Dyno.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 06:34 AM
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the 280hp rating is because of the japanese agreement among automakers. anybody who didn't get that yet is an idiot.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 11:52 AM
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Don't forget new stricter SAE hp ratings when comparing to old hp readings.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 12:18 PM
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HP and TQ will be close, always have and always will on the evo. 320/320 Is what I say.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Atlmethevo
HP and TQ will be close, always have and always will on the evo. 320/320 Is what I say.
I can't wait to see what kind of numbers TopSpeed can get out of it. 380/416 till you take it home, then it's a nice blown up statue
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