Evo X took a step back!
Geez
IX ran a 13.0
X ran a 13.8
IX ran a 4.5 0-60
x ran a 5.0 0-60
But wait the x goes around a corner a hair faster
Who cares! Yeah the people that Mitsu is try to attract could give a damn if the thing goes around a corner fast. The IX did just fine going around a corner and, it was fast!!
F-U Mitsu
X ran a 13.8
IX ran a 4.5 0-60
x ran a 5.0 0-60
But wait the x goes around a corner a hair faster
Who cares! Yeah the people that Mitsu is try to attract could give a damn if the thing goes around a corner fast. The IX did just fine going around a corner and, it was fast!!F-U Mitsu
When you think of WRC class cars, think of it like Nextel Cup cars. It might say Monte Carlo SS on the front bumper, but that car has as much to do with the Monte Carlo SS that sits on the dealer's showroom as a Mitsubishi WRC05 has to do with your Evo.
Production class, or Group N cars as they're known, have very much to do with the production car, the rules are quite restrictive. So as long as Mitsubishi supports GrN, the rally pedigree is there.
I have been hating on the X since the very beginning. After reading the car and driver full performance review, I am left with mixed feelings. While yes its heavier, ultimately slower than the 8 or 9, I have to admit the technology that went into the drivetrain and chassis is quite extraordinary. And please remember, A LOT of the extra cornering performance numbers comes from the wider tires of the Evo X. The razor sharp steering response is gone. Overall I think the tuning potential of the Evo X is quite a bit BELOW that of the 9 or 8. Yes the engine is aluminum and will definitely not allow for a huge power ceiling like the 4G63 (yeah you can argue about sleeving and welding, yada yada yada, but cast iron FTW) and the chassis is heavier, but the really big question is, how much will the new highly advanced drivetrain make up for it? If you don't know already, the new drivetrain can send up to 80% of the torque to the front or rear differentials, and what makes things even more interesting is that the torque can even be further divided to the left or right wheels at the front or rear independently! This technology can only be rivaled by that of the Skyline GTR itself, so in this respect, I am very impressed. If people can manage to squeeze out tons of reliable power from the all aluminum 4B11, I just might jump on board, only after gutting the interior and ditching the A/C 
im sorry the pervious evos had ayc just not in the states so its not a huge thing. i think since it existed already on evos's just not ones on american soil
I'm glad I decided not to order one. Wow 13.8s is very slow! My 03 evo ran 13.5 with me on the track and was able to match R&T's time. Now Motortrend's time is usually very hard to touch so that means 14 sec by other magazines?
My 911T feels like a pig at 3450lbs and now the evo is heavier and probably over rated in hp as well. I'm usually pretty optimistic but now i'm truely disappointed
The Sti is just too fugly for my taste. S2000CR it is
My 911T feels like a pig at 3450lbs and now the evo is heavier and probably over rated in hp as well. I'm usually pretty optimistic but now i'm truely disappointed
The Sti is just too fugly for my taste. S2000CR it is
The fact that it is slow 0-60 is not that bad, although it was with the 5 speed tranny, maybe the new SST will be slower but could be hacked.
The problem is that it also lost the steering feel. And it was the speed and feel that made it have a soul.
Lets hope the US verison is lighter and has more power. (Hey, the Subbies did it for the US).
The problem is that it also lost the steering feel. And it was the speed and feel that made it have a soul.
Lets hope the US verison is lighter and has more power. (Hey, the Subbies did it for the US).
Yep, that's what worries me. Speed isn't a problem, really. There will be plenty of power mods soon enough. But practically every publication to test it thus far has said that it just doesn't feel like an Evo. It handles brilliantly and all, but the raw edginess is gone. Isn't that what makes an Evo an Evo?
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oh man, i was uneasy about the x ever since i saw its specs and the pics of it. it looks audi/vw-ish and the aluminum block is not making me feel good about boosting 23+ psi. open deck , c'mon... i was impressed about the advanced drivetrain, but how much abuse can that advanced newly designed system take before a weak-point is exposed and evo x's wind up at mitsu for repairs. there isn't any trace of the viii/ix in it. as a owner of a mildly-modded viii i bet i could out accel and out corner a new x. remember the b16a and the old honda swap days. then the k-series came out and every one was like bleeehh new honda yuck, i kinda see the new x as the k-series. now a b16a is old news. k-series is standard engine news now. in 3 years the viii/ix will be the b-series honda (heh not in performance). well what ever happens my viii is my favorite car by far. its easy as crap to work on (i did my own clutch replacement). i bet the x isnt as rally (easy to drop trannies/etc...) inspired...
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0-60 times don't impress me as much at the overall driving experience. It's the most immature 18-24 age crowd that wants to brag how fast the car can go from 0-60. For what? So you can wreck your car in 4.5 seconds vs. 4.9?
Sure, 0-60 is important, but it's the gear ratio, torque curve, passing power, and how solid the feel is that impresses me the most. You won't notice 0-60 in 5.0 vs 4.7 in everyday driving.
I drive a 340hp A6 4.2. I'd rather have my car than a 450 hp rear wheel AMG Mercedes. I love the roar of my V8, and although it's not as quick 0-60 as some, you can't replace how solid my car feels with quattro and how much fun to drive it is.
I use to sell Mitsu's and now I'm with Audi. I thought the old Evo was a great car when I was with Mitsu. But I recently drove a used 2005 model, and I can't believe how bad it felt. I thought I was in a tin can. It's a very crude car. But of couse I get to drive high-dollar S4's and such all day at work, so maybe I'm jaded.
There are some very expensive high performace cars that are blinding fast 0-60, but they drive and jerk like a bucket of bolts. I'll take a nicer everyday drive every time. I'm looking forward to a grown-up Evo that will appeal to a larger market segent and be a more comfortable car.
Sure, 0-60 is important, but it's the gear ratio, torque curve, passing power, and how solid the feel is that impresses me the most. You won't notice 0-60 in 5.0 vs 4.7 in everyday driving.
I drive a 340hp A6 4.2. I'd rather have my car than a 450 hp rear wheel AMG Mercedes. I love the roar of my V8, and although it's not as quick 0-60 as some, you can't replace how solid my car feels with quattro and how much fun to drive it is.
I use to sell Mitsu's and now I'm with Audi. I thought the old Evo was a great car when I was with Mitsu. But I recently drove a used 2005 model, and I can't believe how bad it felt. I thought I was in a tin can. It's a very crude car. But of couse I get to drive high-dollar S4's and such all day at work, so maybe I'm jaded.
There are some very expensive high performace cars that are blinding fast 0-60, but they drive and jerk like a bucket of bolts. I'll take a nicer everyday drive every time. I'm looking forward to a grown-up Evo that will appeal to a larger market segent and be a more comfortable car.
Last edited by jperryrocks; Oct 3, 2007 at 04:00 PM.
What is with most Evo people being about straight line speed? Buy a Corvette or a friggin Mustang if you care about straight line speed.
Holy crap, there are Civics faster than the IX at the drag strip. Ya'll better sell them and buy a built Civic!
- Patrick
Holy crap, there are Civics faster than the IX at the drag strip. Ya'll better sell them and buy a built Civic!
- Patrick
Must be nice to have a track other than a 1/4 mile in your state...
for most of us straight line is all we see 95% of the time...the other 5% is turning on to on-ramps exiting off of a highway...I'm about to Tokyo Drift this sh*t so I can finally appreciate what an eVo is meant to do...
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When's the last time you've seen a drag car from japan? Hardly ever. They dont engineer cars for drag like we have muscle cars and all that that were made for racing and all that. They produce cars for an all around driving experience. If u know circut racing there are so many in japan. There is more to a car other than 0-60 speed. how about 70-120? Ever seen that ford commerical or somethin. That kind of speed is needed with a really good handling as its been known since the beginning the Evolution was engineered for as it was a rally car. Even if the car had 200hp from factory it still would get around the circut very fast and it would surprise u what it would beat. The car puts u in the back of the seat.
Also, they are no longer marketing the car to the younger tuner croud. It was announced that they are looking for an older croud as well as women to buy the car and they had to accomodate it for that kind of market. Like the auto trans, more lux interior, cruise control and all that. They are stepping up the game to compete with other markets around the world like bmw, volvo, and so forth.
Its a new beginning for mitsu as from here on you will see alot of changes come from the X onward in the Evoluion.
so dont cry about .5 of a second. if u are. this is not the car for u. go get a C5/6 to get u off while goin down the 1320.
Also, they are no longer marketing the car to the younger tuner croud. It was announced that they are looking for an older croud as well as women to buy the car and they had to accomodate it for that kind of market. Like the auto trans, more lux interior, cruise control and all that. They are stepping up the game to compete with other markets around the world like bmw, volvo, and so forth.
Its a new beginning for mitsu as from here on you will see alot of changes come from the X onward in the Evoluion.
so dont cry about .5 of a second. if u are. this is not the car for u. go get a C5/6 to get u off while goin down the 1320.
