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Old Apr 4, 2004 | 11:23 AM
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Why no Load Site 100?

I logged the car on several autocross laps yesterday and I never saw the maps use load site 100 at any time. I must be over simplifying how it chooses load sites.

Here is a graph of a 1st and 2rd gear pull for reference. Notice the flat shifting. I know this doesn't show the MAF reading. It's too difficult to chart that since the numbers are so high.



Here is the same section in text.

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 2146,+27.4, 212, 75, 00,   00,  +17.2,   8.0,ECU. , +0.0,ECU.  , 250
 3287,+27.4, 302,100, 10,   00,  +19.0,  14.0,ECU. , +0.0,100.00, 341
 4610,+27.2, 581,100, 10,   00,  +17.2,  24.0,ECU. , +0.0,100.00, 830
 5984,+27.2,1016,100, 10,   00,  +12.1,  49.0,ECU. , +0.0,100.00,1295
 6349,+27.2,1308,100, 10,   00,  +18.3,  49.0,ECU. , +0.0,100.00,1086
 6337,+27.4,1048,100, 30,   00,  +14.5,  55.0,ECU. , -1.0,LCM.  , 724
 6161,+27.4, 750,100, 40,   00,  +18.1,  44.0,ECU. , -2.5,LCM.  ,1207
 6385,+27.2,1315,100, 50,   00,  +21.2,  47.0,ECU. , -5.5,100.00,1190
 5847,+27.0,1369,100, 40,   00,   +9.6,  62.0,ECU. , -4.6,100.00,1420
 6242,+27.0,1672,100, 50,   00,  +11.4,  76.0,ECU. , -5.5,100.00,1506
 5500,+27.0,1457,100, 70,   00,   +6.7,  63.0,ECU. , -8.4,100.00,1412
 4938,+27.2,1196,100, 70,   00,   +5.8,  60.0,ECU. , -5.2,100.00,1404
 4385,+27.2,1253,100, 80,   00,   +4.0,  56.0,ECU. , -1.7,100.00,1250
 4273,+27.0,1326,100, 70,   00,   +4.0,  53.0,ECU. , -2.9,100.00,1262
 3944,+27.0, 948,100, 60,   00,   +4.0,  50.0,ECU. , -1.0,100.00,1262
 4578,+27.2,1136,100, 50,   00,   +3.8,  55.0,ECU. , -4.0,100.00,1072
 5058,+27.0,1355,100, 50,   00,   +7.2,  61.0,ECU. , -5.1,100.00,1420
 5546,+27.0,1369,100, 50,   00,   +7.2,  66.0,ECU. , -7.4,100.00,1315
 6116,+26.8,1618,100, 60,   00,  +12.4,  71.0,ECU. , -8.5,100.00,1428
 6587,+26.8,1718,100, 80,   00,  +17.5,  72.0,ECU. ,-12.0,100.00,1479
 7002,+26.8,1628,100, 80,   02,  +21.9,  75.0,ECU. ,-12.4,100.00,1497
 7077,+27.0,1483,100, 90,   02,  +20.1,  74.0,ECU. ,-12.3,LCM.  ,1033
 6301,+27.2,1072,100, 80,   00,  +24.1,  38.0,ECU. ,-11.4,LCM.  , 943
 5446,+27.2,1170,100, 70,   00,  +15.5,  42.0,ECU. , -8.8,100.00,1024
 5473,+27.2,1506,100, 60,   00,   +8.7,  66.0,ECU. , -8.3,100.00,1275
 5688,+27.2,1488,100, 50,   00,   +9.1,  73.0,ECU. , -7.8,100.00,1453
 5837,+27.4,1543,100, 70,   00,  +11.2,  75.0,ECU. ,-10.6,100.00,1453
 6038,+27.4,1582,100, 80,   00,  +12.4,  74.0,ECU. ,-11.4,100.00,1470
 6459,+27.2,1661,100, 80,   00,  +17.0,  77.0,ECU. ,-11.4,100.00,1420
 6472,+27.2,1718,100, 90,   00,  +15.7,  78.0,ECU. ,-11.3,100.00,1445
 6640,+27.0,1577,100, 90,   00,  +18.6,  78.0,ECU. ,-11.9,100.00,1344
 6872,+27.0,1655,100, 90,   05,  +20.0,  77.0,ECU. ,-12.3,100.00,1445
 7122,+27.0,1694,100, 90,   00,  +21.0,  79.0,ECU. ,-12.3,100.00,1461
 7627,+27.2,1724,100, 90,   00,  +22.6,  80.0,ECU. ,-12.3,100.00,1436
 7490,+27.2,1730,100, 90,   08,  +20.5,  79.0,ECU. ,-12.3,100.00,1543
 7423,+27.2, 457, 60, 00,   00,  +32.9,  21.0,ECU. , +0.0,ECU.  , 172
 7473,+27.2, 218,  2, 00,   00,  +39.0,  10.0,ECU. , +0.0,ECU.  , 179
 6887,+27.2, 122,  1, 00,   00,  +38.9,   7.0,ECU. , +0.0,ECU.  ,  48
 6693,+27.0, 126,  1, 00,   00,  +38.5,   7.0,ECU. , +0.0,ECU.  ,  28
 6447,+27.0, 270,  1, 00,   00,  +28.7,   8.0,ECU. , +0.0,ECU.  ,  26
 6301,+27.0,  40,  1, 00,   00,  +28.6,   8.0,ECU. , +0.0,ECU.  ,  38
 6082,+27.0,  57,  1, 00,   00,  +28.8,   8.0,ECU. , +0.0,ECU.  ,  64

What is the logged "Load Site" from? Since there are load sited for either boost, timing or fuel, which one is it referring to. I know that timing and fuel are using MAF Load numbers and my special constants show that 1700hz is 100% load. I am logging over 1700hz and my TPS is 100%. It seems like it that would justify the "Load Site 100". Am I missing something here?
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Old Apr 4, 2004 | 02:23 PM
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Set your scaling for your graph to x/100 to get the MAF reading scaled into something you can see on the same graph..

Other than that.. I have no idea, I never noticed it on mine.. :\ From what I know, as long as its referenced by TPS and MAF, your load site should hit 100 periodically.. do you find the values your hitting (for timing boost and fuel) to be within that load site? Whats LCM? I never noticed that before? (Launch Control?) Its possible your hitting fuel cut or something before it can get to that.. you can reduce the MAF setting (for 100%) so your maf reading is 100% at 1650 or something in that range. Ya know.. It may be odd but double check it to be sure.. seems more like it may be up at 1800??
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Old Apr 4, 2004 | 02:24 PM
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Ahh disregard my fuel cut suggestion, neither the output MAF frequency nor the injector duty cycle seem to be up high enough to indicate it..
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Old Apr 4, 2004 | 03:21 PM
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MAF frequency = load site.

There is some averaging that takes place in the MLP calculation, but the short of it is that your unmodified MAF frequency isn't quite high enough to hit 100% load just yet.

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