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Bobrick Aug 25, 2007 06:25 PM

NEW FP GREEN, setup doesn't produce expected power???
 
Hi,
I recently installed a number of performance upgrades onto my 2006 EVO 9 SE. Mods are as follows:

-FP GREEN Turbocharger
-PTE 780cc injectors
-Agency Power fuel rail
-Walbro 255lp
-Buscher Upper intercooler pipe
-Buscher ported and coated exhaust manifold
-AMS Lower intercooler pipe
-Apex'i inate with induction box
-TiTek O2 sensor hosing
-Perrin 3" downpipe
-B&B test pipe
-Espelir catback exhaust
-GReddy Profec II Spec B boost controller


Past Thursday i went to Speed Elements in Fremont,CA to get my car dyno tuned. There was an unusual and unresolved problem. The car is only producing 250AWHP @20psi 91 oct. & BARELY 270AWHP @ 23-24psi 91 oct. A/F's were perfect and boost was reached without a problem. Andy, the tech there, tried to do everything he could to get the car to work correctly as we were convinced that it was supposed to produce 300-320AWHP with this setup and at that boost pressure. After about 20 pulls on a dyno, we had no luck.

I just completed doing a boost leak test and everything seems to be fine, there are no boost leaks. The car has 13.5K miles on it so i doubt there are any mechanical problems with it. We did a compression test on site just to eliminate other possibilities and it came back perfect (140-145 psi).

Please advice if you have ANY idea why i am being short of power. Thank you in advance.

midwestmonster Aug 25, 2007 06:33 PM

Maybe bad gas...

fishing_ndw Aug 25, 2007 06:34 PM

I would check your timing just to be safe. My car was off a tooth and putting down 240 whp and after fixing my timing it went to 280 whp on 91 oct.

Hope this helps...

SuPeRNeT Aug 25, 2007 06:35 PM

This is after tunning? Damn

mac74 Aug 25, 2007 06:43 PM

possiable bad gas, also what was the temp outside. I would also check into a front mount. Possiable heat soaking?? Are sure there was no knock pulling timing. Gotta be something simple I put down more on a stock turbo...

Bobrick Aug 25, 2007 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by fishing_ndw (Post 4679123)
I would check your timing just to be safe. My car was off a tooth and putting down 240 whp and after fixing my timing it went to 280 whp on 91 oct.

Hope this helps...

Timing was checked and was dead on. Thanks for the reply.

Bobrick Aug 25, 2007 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by mac74 (Post 4679136)
possiable bad gas, also what was the temp outside. I would also check into a front mount. Possiable heat soaking?? Are sure there was no knock pulling timing. Gotta be something simple I put down more on a stock turbo...

it was 83* F

4WS Tuning Aug 25, 2007 06:55 PM

idk about bad gas.... I've never ever had a bad tank of gas or know anyone who has...


Check for an exhaust leak around the turbo....


is there another shop local to that familiar with evos. Not bashing speed element at all, i know theyre good people there, maybe another set of eyes will catch something you guys missed.

Never know


Cheers!

Bobrick Aug 25, 2007 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by 4 Wheel Slide (Post 4679175)
idk about bad gas.... I've never ever had a bad tank of gas or know anyone who has...


Check for an exhaust leak around the turbo....

Everything was torqued to spec with all new gaskets.

4WS Tuning Aug 25, 2007 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by Bobrick (Post 4679179)
Everything was torqued to spec with all new gaskets.


Do you have a tactrix cable? if you wanna post a log on here im sure there are a few people that can figure it out

Bobrick Aug 25, 2007 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by 4 Wheel Slide (Post 4679187)
Do you have a tactrix cable? if you wanna post a log on here im sure there are a few people that can figure it out

sorry, i do not have that. any other ideas?

smokedmustang Aug 25, 2007 07:08 PM

Glazed/slipping clutch?

Speed Corps Aug 25, 2007 07:11 PM

4wheelslide may be right. Check for leaks around the exhaust manifold. Speed Element should have logged one of the runs to see what was going on.

Bobrick Aug 25, 2007 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by smokedmustang (Post 4679210)
Glazed/slipping clutch?

I don't think that would be the case the RPM would go up and the wheels would not spin if the clutch was slipping.

Bobrick Aug 25, 2007 07:33 PM

Any other suggestions?


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